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Gear Talk / Re: handlebar bags for carbon handlebars
« on: May 06, 2021, 09:11:33 am »
I'll likely look for a system that does not clamp; possibly velcro. The Bicycle Transportation Alliance reports:

"How do you set up handlebar bags on carbon fiber handlebars?

Many cyclists think of carbon fiber handlebars as a more fragile version of aluminum or steel handlebars. However, that can’t be further from the truth.

Carbon fiber handlebars are actually relatively stronger and more durable, so there’s no need to worry about attaching handlebar bags to your carbon fiber components. They should be fine even after attaching bike touring bags."

i agree- my carbon bars are less prone to damage that aluminum.

Gear Talk / handlebar bags for carbon handlebars
« on: May 06, 2021, 08:33:32 am »
Any suggestions for a fairly good size handlebar bag (touring, not bikepacking) with a map pocket on top that can be attached to Carbon Handlebars??

Routes / Re: Safety of Rte 66 in California?
« on: April 27, 2020, 09:47:03 pm »
Thanks, PNWRider92-
I have the sense, with common sense and vetted ACA routes, St Louis is a fun city to cycle through.
My original post was more of an inquiry about the overall safety or lack of  within the section of ACA rt 66 where the northern tier meets Route 66 at Odell Illinois, s to Marshfield MO where it meets the trans am trail.

Routes / Re: Safety of Rte 66 in California?
« on: April 22, 2020, 04:58:29 pm »
Makes sense. I do trust ACA routes and both intuitively Feel I should  and have been advised by other touring cyclists to stay on ACA routes.
I lived in Seattle for 15 years and found the bike routes fairly safe, although it’s not St. Louis.
My major concern now is collecting the right gear.

Thanks! Mitch

Routes / Re: Safety of Rte 66 in California?
« on: April 22, 2020, 11:22:15 am »
Hi Manilishi;

Thanks for the reply. The Katy trail was just a thought. I read about it in a book by Mick Dolan who road cross country and all of rt 66.
I used to ride through Seattle a multitude of times when a lived just north in WA state and it was quite safe. While in Wa, I took weeklong Touring rides through the northwest as we each rotated driving a sag van and stayed in cheaper motels or hunting lodges. Prior to that, I just took a week long ride through the NY Adirondacks with panniers and camping while in VT. So I don’t have extensive experience with long distance touring, but a very good sense of preparedness based on what I have done and extensive cycling.
I now live in northern Vermont after returning from WA in Montpelier and can say that Seattle was as safe as some of the country roads near here.
I fully agree that staying on ACA routes is a safe bet; they’re tried and true. Other local cross country riders in Vermont suggest the same approach with staying on ACA routes since residents are accustomed to riders.
I’ve reached out to a few cross country cyclists for tips and info.

I researched several bikes and did look at the niner.
 I posted a request for suggested bicycle types on this forum about 1 year ago since I was considering a cross bike or gravel grinder. Majority of replies recommended a traditional touring geometry. However, I refuse to buy into the overweighted Surly LHT mindset. So I looked about ( co motion, soma, etc, ) and thought about titanium, given it light weight and strength. I inadvertently reached out to a co in Australia who makes ti bikes asking if they could make a touring bike with a performance element. I know the cost of ti is pricey.
Auren bikes of Australia called me late one night about 3 weeks later ( I forgot who they were). They wanted their foot in the door in the states so offered a significant reduction.
A year later , I bought a frame that’s shipping now.
I’m now researching gear and other details.
Route starts in Brunswick , maine- northern tier until south of Chicago where I connect with rt 66 in Odell Illinois ,s to Marshfield Mo, connecting to TransAmerica trail to Missoula, then bout 250 miles north back to northern tier.
I plan to travel ultralight with panniers, mostly camp.
Thanks so much for reaching out. Would love to call your number to chat more.

Routes / Re: Safety of Rte 66 in California?
« on: April 22, 2020, 07:45:50 am »
Thanks , John.
 Good to know. I’ll find a route around the western edge of St Louis and may take the Katy bike trail some , then head south down to Marshfield to pick up TransAmerica.

Routes / Re: Safety of Rte 66 in California?
« on: April 21, 2020, 02:32:39 pm »
I plan to ride the northern tier ( now 2021) e to w, and taking ACA Route 66 south from Odell, Illinois to Marshfield, MO and connect to TransAm.
Can you comment on safety or lack of on that stretch?

General Discussion / Re: Touring/Hybrid Bike recommendation
« on: June 07, 2019, 09:12:51 am »
I'm going to do the Vancouver BC to Mexico route this coming March-ish, I'll be traveling very light; using a credit card.
I'm afraid my beloved Cannondale R2000 is not suitable; so I'm looking for another (used) bike (2000 to ~2014).
My preference is to go light (Aluminium or Titanium) and am looking for something with 700 x 38mm tires, or equivalent, or in that neighborhood.
Any suggestions for either a Touring bike or Hybrid bike?
I'm kinda floundering with the overload of data available :)

Hi Day Tripper;

I'm curious as to what you ended up using for a bike. I posted a similar inquiry about 2 weeks ago. I plan to tour coast to coast next year carrying rear panniers, but going as light as I can, maybe....25-30 lbs max. I'm looking at a ti gravel bike; Lynskey GR270 and the co assures me it can do the job. Folks out there seem skeptical and suggest a traditional 'loaded touring' bike. The irony is that when I speak to tourers in person, they have used a gravel bike.

Your thoughts?

Well, it appears that the consensus and direction is to seriously consider using a traditional loaded touring concept.
I'm leaning in that direction with the hope to discover a more lively compromise.

Let me toss in one more vote for the "heavy" touring bike.  Note the quotation marks.

I tend to use one of my touring bikes for commuting, group rides, long weekend rides, etc., just because it's always set up and ready.  I get some guff, along the lines of "You'd ride so much faster on a light bike."  That's not my experience, though; when I do pull out the lighter bike, even though it's at least eight (8) pounds lighter, the bike disappears within a quarter mile of getting on it.  I suspect if I took off the next 40 pounds I might speed up more...

What I do notice is the load.  Light commute load, hardly there.  Heavy load (add lunch, shoes, coffee, electronics, etc.) and the bike starts to feel like a slug.  Similar to Pete's experience, I usually find the threshold between light and heavy loads around 10-15 pounds.  I usually do a couple apple runs every fall; the touring bike is a joy to ride out to the orchard, and I have to enjoy the apple cider and stop to munch an apple coming back.  The bike disappears, but the load endures as long as it's on the bike.

My recommendation, as usual, is buy what you like.  We're all susceptible to analysis paralysis, and subconscious influence.  You read the web pages marketing the latest and greatest, or the glossy magazines with marketing reviews of the latest fad, and it's obviously the wonderfulest thing on the planet. 

After all your reading, go find some bikes and test ride them.  If possible, load them up and ride them 3-5 miles.  I did something like that some years ago.  Called around, and the nearest place that had the model I wanted and one I wanted to try, was 200 miles away.  I went down and test rode everything I could find in one afternoon, and brought a totally different model home, and rode that model across the country two years later.  So try as many as you can yourself, and buy the one you want to ride.

I definitely plan to go as light as possible short of taking a large risk. The feedback seems roughly 50-50 re a gravel bike and 'loaded touring', I'll do what I can to tests ride given some are a distance or online. Folks report that they use both concepts and they work.

Yes, John, I'm buying a new bike. The quandary is finding a bike that can manage a loaded C2C tour and be able to navigate some dirt roads post tour. Hence the gravel/tour concept, if it exists without committing to a light adventure touring capacity bike.
Point well taken; sell the traditional tour for a gravel bike, although I may tour again!



I do plan on carrying a stove, sleeping bag, tent, extra clothes- all ultralight. I'm looking at a Lynskey GR270 and they assure me that it can manage a fairly significant load. I finding titanium appealing. Adrenaline Bikes in Orange, CA reports that one of their employees used this bike to tour across as well.
But I hear your voice about not traveling across country that way.
As mentioned, I'm concerned about the rack panniers being set too far back which would throw the bike out of balance and heel strike (size 46- 13 shoes). I'm 210 lbs and 6'3" .
I may lean back to the CoMotion Deschutes, a steel loaded touring favorite made in Portland,OR.
Other considerations- Kona Sutra, Salsa Vaya, Habanero Ti bikes in Mesa ,AZ

What did you use for loaded touring?

Hi All;

This may seem redundant, but I'm exploring and deliberating about what geometry/build to use for a coast to coast tour, self sustained.
I likely will carry 30-40 lbs on a rear rack as an estimate ( not sure about a front rack). I like the concept of a gravel/touring that affords multiple use after the tour.
I'm concerned about long enough chain-stay and heel strike as well as weight distribution.

Thoughts and suggestions?


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