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General Discussion / Re: Washington Hiker/Biker Campsites?
« on: July 23, 2014, 04:23:06 pm »
We've only been to the NPS Olympic campground at Fairholm (or Fairholme) once (2009) but it did have specific HB sites [down a rather steep trail]. Nice too.

I went to Fairholm in 2010 and don't remember a hiker/biker, at least the Park staff didn't say anything about it. And the campground was full, so they set us up in a not-so-great spot near a service road.

...had made the assumption the campsites that had been mentioned catered mainly to cyclists, run by cyclists etc.  So they're just your standard campgrounds ...

I think the problem you're going to run into if you want to use campgrounds as the base to work is the ones that are more catering to cyclists/hiker-biker sites, while usually cheaper than $40-50 a night, are pretty rustic and don't have that many services. If you're going to be looking at things like a reliable source of power and wi-fi for your laptop, you'll have to look more at those campgrounds that cater more to the RV set. And those ones are going to be more expensive.

I've heard of a few people who have done work on tour on places like the Pacific Coast. What they normally would do is stay at the hiker/biker sites, then find an adequate cafe in a town and then plunk themselves down on the laptop for several hours.

General Discussion / Re: [California] SF to SD Biking Trip
« on: July 22, 2014, 12:52:28 pm »
Let's see that is about 110 miles a day.

I don't understand your math here. Using bike directions on google maps, the distance from San Francisco to San Diego is about 620 miles. It'll probably be slightly longer, so it might be more safe to say 700 miles. And the OP has 14 days (two weeks) to do it. Doing the math, I get 50 miles a day, which is pretty manageable for many people touring.

General Discussion / Re: cooking stoves for bike travel in Europe
« on: July 12, 2014, 12:14:53 pm »
There is apparently a kind of 'spirit' fuel available in bottles but I'm not sure what exactly 'spirit' fuel is or if it would work in an MSR. 

Spirit fuel is alcohol, just like some alcoholic beverages are known as "spirits". So no, it won't work in an MSR. But it will work in a Trangia stove, which should be popular and available in Finland. (Trangia is a Swedish brand.)

General Discussion / Re: Washington Hiker/Biker Campsites?
« on: June 30, 2014, 01:17:07 pm »
I found this link which shows that they're aren't many hiker/biker sites on the Olympic Peninsula route.

Two things here:
First, that map on the link isn't accurate, and it is missing some hiker/biker state parks. For example, it doesn't list Cape Disappointment, the most SW park on the Pacific Coast. And I know for sure there is a hiker/biker site there. It also doesn't list Beacon Rock in the Columbia Gorge.

Secondly, pretty much all the state parks on the coast are located south of the Olympic Peninsula. On the peninsula itself (at least the west side), there is only one state park between Grays Harbor and Port Angeles: Bogachiel. What you're going to be more concerned with here is the other campground operators: Olympic National Park, the Olympic National Forest, and the other operators. Olympic NP doesn't have hiker/biker sites (at least when I rode it 4 years ago), but park rangers managed to find me a camping spot when we ended up at full campgrounds. None of the spots were great, but serviceable.

Great, thanks. I already factored in some time for some detours, which I will certainly use for La Push/Mora and Hoh.

And I would also factor in some time to hike and do other stuff off the bike. The 20 mile ride up the Hoh River Valley is decent enough, but you still need to actually hike a bit in the Hoh Rainforest to make that side trip worthwhile.

I have a bit of a dilemma since the AC route uses 112/113, while Sol Duc and others are accessible from 101.

Sol Duc wouldn't be too much of a detour from 112/113. If I were to ride that area again, I'd do 112/113 vs 101 in that section. While Lake Crescent is pretty, the 10 miles that 101 parallels it is narrow and high-trafficked.

And I have an extra day in my back pocket, is Hurricane Ridge Road worthwhile? I might grab a room in Port Angeles and ride it unloaded.

I haven't done Hurricane Ridge, but I know it's a popular ride!

202 their 2nd edition book, K&S have the out and back detours off 101 to La Push and the Hoh Rain Forest as part of their main route. But in their 4th edition, they no longer have them as overnight stops, but just as side trips. So are they worthwhile overnight stops?

Yes, they are worthwhile stops, at least in my opinion.

If you just stick to the main (US 101) route, you will only pass through Olympic National Park at two places, about 15 miles around Lake Crescent, and about 15 miles around Kalaloch Beach. The rest of the route between the Grays Harbor area and Port Angeles go through a mix of private and state/federal forest lands, with a few small towns. The scenery is ho-hum to okay for most of that part, but nothing spectacular, and you won't see the ocean except for that section around Kalaloch. The spots inside the park are way better and more interesting than what you just see on the main road (excepting the portions 101 goes through the park.) I wouldn't do a tour out that way without factoring in the "side trips" to places like La Push, Hoh, Sol Duc, etc.

Pacific Northwest / Re: Bears on Pacific Coast Ride?
« on: June 24, 2014, 04:44:36 pm »
Raccoons, however, will raid your food supply all the way down if it is not secured.

And sometimes, even if it is secured!  ;)
(If a campsite has a "bear box", use it!)

There may be shops in Vancouver that would probably accept your bike, but before you go down that road, I'd check on shipping costs first. While shipping something like a long-based recumbent via UPS or Fedex is going to be somewhat expensive in the States, when you ship it to another country (even Canada!) it can go into the realm of ridiculously expensive. And that's not including duties that Canada Customs may slap on the box. (That alone may scare some shops off from accepting your bike.)

It might be better to ship to Bellingham and either start the ride there or ride up to Vancouver (one day's ride.)

General Discussion / Re: Fighting off boredom?
« on: June 24, 2014, 12:07:42 am »
I think perhaps "boredom" was the wrong term. Instead, I think I should have instead said, "what do you guys do during downtime / relaxation time"

I think John nailed that one as well. For me, the downtime, which is after I get into camp and set up tent, etc, is occupied by making dinner, listening to the radio, checking the maps/info for the next day(s), maybe writing a post card or two, and if I can, write something on teh Internetz/share a few photos. And maybe (maybe!) open that book...

General Discussion / Re: Fighting off boredom?
« on: June 23, 2014, 11:56:35 pm »
I can't say I'm ever bored on a tour.

Agreed. There's not a heck of a lot of time for boredom to set in. And if it does, it might be saying something about your tour.

I generally bring a book with me on tour, one that I intend to read, yet rarely do I ever open the cover. Yeah, I probably shouldn't bring with me next time...

Even on my off days, I find little time to be bored. I'm usually consumed with restocking needed supplies, finding out information, getting bike repairs, etc. If I have time left over to do nothing, it's just nice to "do nothing" for a bit.

OP, I take it when you say "Credit Card Camping", you mean staying indoors at hotels and the like, not actually camping. (Though I would love to see someone tour by actually taking a credit card camping tour and set up tents inside motel rooms each night.  ;) )

I looked over a couple sections of the Sierra Cascade Route, namely sections 1 and 2, from Sumas WA to Crater Lake. Yeah, it looks like you can do it for that length, but there will be those long stretches sans service like zzzz mentioned. And you'd probably have to book space far in advance, as the lodging options are either small, or in a touristy area, or both. So you would be "locked" into a schedule. Still, it would be safe to have a camping setup as back-up, just like zzzz plans to do.

I've done parts of the northern part of the Sierra Cascades, and it is definitely a beautiful route, but challenging.

General Discussion / Re: Mailing to Myself On the Road
« on: May 30, 2014, 02:41:44 pm »
Also, it is nice to still have a usable map even when your phone batteries are dead.

+1 or what have you. I was going to write something more detailed, but staehpj1 pretty much covered it.

Anyways, a full set of ACA maps for a route do take up some space, but not a heck of a lot, especially compared to other maps. I'm guessing weight-wise it's probably about a pound and change.

General Discussion / Re: Mailing to Myself On the Road
« on: May 28, 2014, 02:14:27 pm »
Another option: If you happen to be staying with any Warmshowers hosts along the way, you can ask one if they are willing to accept and hold a package of maps for you.

I think you're striking out because you're "barking up the wrong tree", so to speak. It's better to look at one of the bike rental companies in town. But I will have to say, it's harder to find a touring-ready rental than just a city, hybrid, or road bike.

Pedal has Jamis Auroras for rent, which is a touring bike. Though it says they have a 57cm size in stock, it doesn't hurt to contact them to see if they have other sizes;

Waterfront Bicycles has Fuji touring bikes.

Everybody's have "road" bikes, but they deal with used bikes, so they may have a touring ready bike in there, or a mountain bike ready for touring.

Of course, it's going to cost ya. You're looking at $100-$165 for a week rental on a bike that you don't know. If it was me, I would look more into the options of bringing your own bike. Yes, airlines are a pain, but you may be able to ship your bike to/from via UPS or FedEx, or even ship it via Amtrak.

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