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Pacific Northwest / Re: Lewis and Clarke vs Transam: oregon to Missoula
« on: January 31, 2022, 09:19:55 pm »
Jamawani, it doesn't look like your Crown Point pic uploaded.
Oh wait, it looks like it did. But I'll still share mine:

Also, that route from Clatskanie to St. Helens is definitely better than sticking to US 30. My preferred routing from Astoria to Portland would be 202-47-Banks/Vernonia Trail, but that stays far from the Columbia River.

General Discussion / Re: Amtrak Bike Travel
« on: January 31, 2022, 09:13:54 pm »
If I ran a business that had more demand than supply, I would raise the price to discourage demand (not the preferred option)  or increase the supply.

Amtrak isn't a private business, it's a perpetually underfunded (until just about right now) government agency. I'm sure they want to increase bike space and get the added revenue, but by design they don't move fast. There's also the issue with bike space on trains when it comes to seasonal demand--jammed in summer, almost empty in winter. So Amtrak might not want to increase bike space if it comes at the expense of less passenger room.

General Discussion / Re: Amtrak Bike Travel
« on: January 31, 2022, 09:09:23 pm »
I will be taking Amtrak in June but because of Covid they have made changes that make it more difficult to bring my bike.  I will be traveling through Portland, OR to get to Whitefish, MT.  The train to Whitefish from Portland no longer provides bike service so I will have to box my bike.

When you say "no longer provides bike service", do you mean roll-on (unboxed) bike service? If so, the Empire Builder from Portland to Spokane never offered this.

When Amtrak started to do roll-on service on the Empire Builder a few years back, they only did it for the Seattle segment. This is because how the the two sections of train split (or come together) at Spokane--the Seattle segment has the full baggage car, and that was upgraded with the bike racks. The Portland section only has the small baggage space sans hooks. When the train splits/comes apart at Spokane, the baggage from the small Portland baggage hold moves to the bigger Seattle baggage car, or vice versa. I'm guessing they didn't want to have to transfer unboxed bikes, so Portland bound bikes need to be boxed. I heard that this may change at some point, so I'm hopeful that boxing bikes in Portland won't forever be the status quo. But for now you have to do it.

Pacific Northwest / Re: Lewis and Clarke vs Transam: oregon to Missoula
« on: January 31, 2022, 08:55:30 pm »
What direction are you heading?

The Lewis and Clark (no "e") is generally easier than the TransAm through Oregon, as it's flatter. But this only applies if you are heading east. If you are heading west on the Lewis and Clark in the summer, expect a heavy headwind from the Columbia Gorge eastward. How strong? Strong enough that you'll need to pedal downhill.

And the Lewis and Clark also features a bit of riding Interstate 84 from Cascade Locks to Biggs Junction. You can avoid that by crossing to the Washington side at Cascade Locks. However, you'll miss some scenic highlights in Oregon, and while WA 14 isn't a freeway, it's a two lane highway with heavy traffic (especially truck traffic) and lots of section with no shoulder. And if you stay on WA 14 from Stevenson to Maryhill, you will miss Hood River as the bridge there does not allow bikes.

I don't recall any unpaved sections on the Lewis and Clark in Oregon, though there are sections with paved bike paths.

General Discussion / Re: Portland to Clarkston to Missoula
« on: January 31, 2022, 07:27:23 pm »
You are welcome.

For future reference, the overall map of routes is here:
This will help you find what ACA routes go where.

General Discussion / Re: Portland to Clarkston to Missoula
« on: January 31, 2022, 02:04:21 pm »
Lewis and Clark.

General Discussion / Re: What "riding buddies" do you take on tour?
« on: January 18, 2022, 12:45:10 am »
And I don't really want to debate this, I want this thread to be fun! Rather than end on a sour note, here are some more photos of moosemoose.

Here's moosemoose with me in an Amtrak Roomette:

And moosemoose taking in the view from Rocky Butte:

Finally, moosemoose on the loose in Palouse (Washington):

General Discussion / Re: What "riding buddies" do you take on tour?
« on: January 18, 2022, 12:38:26 am »
. Because, what's the point?

The point is, in all sincereity, maybe someone can explain it to me.

The question was directed at you.

But I'll bite: if you are "sincerely" wondering why people do this vs "just asking questions", I can only speak for myself. Because it was silly. Because it was fun. Because it does no one any harm. Sometimes things don't have to have some grand meaning.

General Discussion / Re: What "riding buddies" do you take on tour?
« on: January 18, 2022, 12:36:30 am »
Really, in my defense, I think this is being a little too sensitive. I didn't mean to criticize anyone. I merely stated I don't get it. If it gives you pleasure, then by all means follow though. What I think really doesn't matter.  To lambast someone just because they have a different impression or don't see things the same way, is a bit over the top IMO. Ayway, if I offended anyone, my apologies. But then, maybe I'm being too sensitive, however it's not something I'm often accsued of.

Ah yes, the "your to sensitive" defense. I should have expected it, this is the internet in 2022.

For the record, no one is "lambasting" you. We (or at least I) am just asking you to consider the audience. This is a silly little thread, no need to bring negativity into it.

General Discussion / Re: What "riding buddies" do you take on tour?
« on: January 17, 2022, 11:32:47 pm »
Not meaning to be critical at all, but I just don't get his type of stuff. But each to his own.  If it makes you happey, go for it.

Not meaning to be critical at all, but there's all sorts of things I don't "get". But I refrain from commenting about it. Because, what's the point?

General Discussion / Re: What "riding buddies" do you take on tour?
« on: January 17, 2022, 04:01:16 pm »
From 2012 through 2016, moosemoose accompanied me on my adventures. He was a tiny orange stuffed moose that I found at IKEA.
He was lost on Election Day 2016. Moosemoose was on a handlebar bag that got stolen when I took a quick trip into a store. Alas, IKEA does not sell this moose anymore, so the last half-decade I haven't had a small riding buddy with me. Hopefully I'll find the right one again at some point.

Thanks for the info!
That link to your blog did not work, do you have another?

Routes / Re: Interstate Alternatives
« on: October 12, 2021, 09:19:01 pm »
The trouble w commenting with anything one experiences on a route like this is your sample size is 1. I will defer to you as a local that I-84 at that stretch doesn’t always suck. The morning I was there it was nose to tail heavy truck traffic and the shoulder was covered in debris and the wind was howling out of the east. It’s not a long stretch but riding into a 30 mph headwind it wasn’t “fast” to get thru.

In this case it's more about tolerance to traffic. I can deal with busy like this in small bits, so 84 through here doesn't faze me as much as it would others. But I wouldn't choose it if there was a better alternative (and better than WA 14 on the other side, even though it's a two lane state route, shoulders are infrequent and truck traffic is high.) I will say that the shoulder of I-84 is often debris-strewn, and having to ride it into a headwind would not be fun (and yeah, I have done that too.)

I actually really liked the SC route, it was one of my favorite tours but it’s not for everyone. And I presume you're referring to the alternate route near crater lake, I did not take that.

Yep, that's the part. I planned on using that alternate, and once I found it unrideable I had to go to Crater Lake "the long way". This made me have to cut a day of riding on the tour, as I was on a tight timeline.

Routes / Re: Interstate Alternatives
« on: October 12, 2021, 08:48:50 pm »
Not to be a scold and it’s not an interstate per se, but Ca 58 as your nearing Tehachapi is part of the Sierra Cascades route and it is a major 4 lane highway at that point with as much traffic as any interstate. And as soon as you get on it there’s a big sign “No Bicycles on Highway”. Your only on it for 5-6 miles and I was passed by a police car during that time who apparently felt he had better things to do then hassle a cyclist. I only bring it up as the ACA maps are not always a guarantee that it’s legal to ride every mile of the route.

I heard that when ACA planned the Sierra Cascades Route, they hired the guy who originally wrote the Pacific Crest Bike Trail book, which came out around 1990. But he didn't actually bike the route again, just used a car to do recon. Don't know if it's true, but I can believe it, as some choices on the SC didn't make a heck of a lot of sense. Or when they provided a "gravel alternative", it was practically unrideable (if you didn't have at least plus tires) loose pumice.

And speaking of interstates and the Sierra route, most of the little stretches of Interstate I’ve been on have been fine, however I-84 between Cascade Locks and Hood River Oregon was pure misery.

I've ridden that section numerous times. I wouldn't call it "pure misery", but it's not a lot of fun. It's at least fast to get through. They're hopefully going to complete the section of the Historic Columbia River Hwy bike path through there in the near future, so you won't have to ride that anymore.

Routes / Re: Interstate Alternatives
« on: October 12, 2021, 08:44:39 pm »
That trend toward wide tires isn't universal, some folks are touring with ultralight gear on road bikes with skinny tires or touring bikes with not so wide tires.  I might choose different tires depending on the tour, but I have fairly recently gone coast to coast camping and cooking with 25mm tires (actually started out wth 23mm until they wore out).  The guy I rode with was on similar tires.  Neither of us regretted our choice.  I didn't pay too much attention, but I think most of the people we met were running the old standatd 32mm tires.

I wonder if it's a generational thing. Folks my age or younger seem to be into bikepacking with wide tires. Sure, there's a few people who might tour on a road bike, but it's rare. Then again, most people bikepacking are going to stick with bikepacking routes, so it doesn't matter that much to them that ACA routes are 99% pavement. For me, I like to do a mix of gravel and paved, so I'll use things like ACA routes where I can.

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