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Routes / Better Route West of Missoula?
« on: October 08, 2004, 09:08:26 pm »
The area west of Missoula that that refers to is US 12 in Idaho. If you look at a state map of Idaho you will see that there aren't that many roads that go through that part of the state. The closest to the north is I-90...and the closest to the south is pretty far down there, and a much busier road to boot...US 93.

I will say that over the last year or two that I've been hearing from people that the section of US 12 that we use hasn't been as busy as people anticipated. A man from Germany told me this year that he read the notice on the maps and said that he didn't think that it should be there. That he only saw a few trucks on the whole route and they were all very courteous.

One more note, US 12 is one of the most scenic parts of the TransAm route.

I hope that this helps.

 

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Routes / Long Beach to San Diego
« on: August 09, 2004, 04:43:51 pm »
Adventure Cycling has a route that travels from Long Beach
to San Diego. The Pacific Coast route, section #5. http://
www.adventurecycling.org/routes/pacificcoast.cfm

There is one section on that showing the route through Camp
Pendleton. Since 9/11, Camp Pendelton has been closed to
bicycles and the route now goes on I-5 around that section. I-
5 is the only road in the area, so we don't have a choice. But
for that section it is legal to ride on I-5.

Tom Robertson
routes and mapping




 

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Routes / Best Route from Missoula to Great Falls
« on: March 18, 2004, 03:21:38 pm »
I would have to say that the shorter route on Hwy. 200 would
be the best way to go. Not only is it more direct, but the
scenary is pretty great as well. There aren't that many paved
roads in Montana, so those two options are pretty much it.

Tom Robertson
Adventure Cycling


 

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Routes / Pacific Route Traffic in July?
« on: March 15, 2004, 06:05:00 pm »
I rode the Pacific Coast route (at least from Santa Barbara to
the Mexican border) last July and while the traffic could be
heavy at times, I never felt that it was dangerous. There was
a nice shoulder/bike lane for much of the route that made it
enjoyable. I was a bit skeptical before the trip, thinking that
we would be fighting traffic the whole time...and was
pleasantly surprised that the riding was so good.

Tom Robertson
Adventure Cycling


 

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Routes / Southern Route
« on: February 06, 2004, 02:32:32 pm »
Hi Jim,

When folks generally ask this question to us in the routes and
mapping department at Adventure Cycling, we tell them that
whatever works out logistically easier is probably the way to
go. That said, most folks on the Southern Tier do ride it from
west to east. One reason is if you do start in the spring, you
can get through the desert sections of the southwest before it
gets too hot.

The other thing that comes up is wind. I've ridden the
southern tier from west to east. In that case, we probably had
an equal number of headwinds and tailwinds.  I've also riden
the western part of the route from east to west. In that case I
joined my father who had been riding from the east coast,
and had enjoyed tailwinds for most of the trip.

So it's hard to predict the wind a lot of the time. But it does
seem like that you'd have a better chance for favorable winds
if you went west to east....but there are always exceptions.

Hope that this helps.



 

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Routes / Key West, Florida
« on: January 26, 2004, 03:15:40 pm »
The Atlantic Coast route that we (Adventure Cycling) has,
has been around for quite some time....and I'm not even sure
why it ends in Fort Myers. We have had discussions with one
of our researchers in the area and we've been looking at
changing the route.

We hear a lot of good things about the route that goes
straight down the Atlantic Coast of the state....using the route
from the book "Bicycling the Atlantic Coast". (http://
www.adventurecycling.org/store/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=
120)

The route in the book takes you down to the Miami area.
From there, I would get in touch with the bike coordinator for
the state of Florida (Dennis Scott at
dennis.scott@dot.state.fl.us) and find out what information
they have to get you down to the Keys. (I do know that there
are bike paths being built in the Miami area). Also CR 997 (to
the east of US 1) is the way to go....down to CR 995....and
then following US 1 out to Key West (I've heard that there is a
shouler/path for most of the way).

From there, there is a ferry available to get back to the Fort
Myers area. I'm sure that they bike coordinator for the state of
Florida knows the schedule of the ferry.

Hope that this helps.

Tom Robertson
routes and mapping



 

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Routes / I WISH TO RIDE THROUGH ALASKA
« on: January 07, 2004, 05:54:22 pm »
We get this questions occasionally from folks wanting to ride
from the States, through Canada to Alaska. We suggest what
we use for tours that go to Alaska...The Milepost. Here is a
link to it on Amazon.com. It seems to be updated every year with services and has been a good resource over the years. The Milepost  ;)

This message was edited by Webmaster on 1-20-04 @ 6:12 PM

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Routes / Northern Tier
« on: January 07, 2004, 04:28:47 pm »
The northern Cascades are generally open between late
April and late November. For exact dates, call the park in
Sedro-Woolley at 206-856-5700.

A good number to have to check on the conditions  
for Glacier National Park is 406-888-7800. We generally
suggest to folks to give them a call to see what the current
conditions are and if they have any ideas of when it will
open. Keep in mind that snow can happen during any month.

Also, there is an alternate route that goes around the
southside of the park if it is closed. While not as scenic as
going over Logan Pass (there isn't much that is), it offers
good riding and low traffic along the Middle Fork of the
Flathead River.

This message was edited by TRobertson on 1-7-04 @ 1:01 PM

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Routes / W. Montana routes?
« on: January 07, 2004, 04:38:14 pm »
Hi Mark,

I talk to a fair number of folks who are planning a trip to come
to Montana to bike. The first thing that I always suggest is the
Glacier National Park area.  And since you have 4 days to
do, this would probably be the best option for you. It works
out well in that you can do a loop in that time period, and see
some of the most scenic bikeways in the country.


 

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General Discussion / Late Summer/Fall Travel
« on: June 12, 2007, 02:09:17 pm »
It seems to be different these past few years about where you can ride in
the fall. It seems though that you can ride later in the year, but riding
through southern Colorado can still be challenging after September. Also
on the Western Express, the route bounces between 5,000' and 7,500', so
it might get chilly as there as well.


 

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General Discussion / Adv Cycling Maps and Water
« on: June 08, 2004, 07:09:59 pm »
Hi Ron,

The Western Express route is unique in that it traverses some
pretty rural areas. In our experience with rural areas like this,
we have found that services are always changing. Keeping
up with what is open, and keeping it current on the maps, can
be challenging.

With our Great Divide map we do try to list where to get water
(mainly from streams) in the more desolate areas. We have
found that this is even more challening....in that water
sources tend to change several times during a riding season.

Getting back to the Western Express, I would advise to
assume that if there is a restroom symbol, that these areas do
not have water. You can feel fairly certain that all other
services would (motels, service stations, restaurants and
even bars), so it's best to have a good supply of water before
heading out on the long stretches of the US 50 that don't
have water.

If you do have an emergency and need water, cyclists have
had much luck in the past flagging down automobiles
(especially RV's) and asking if they have water. Some tourist
that have ridden to Alaska on the stretches without water will
even make a sign and hang it off the back of their bike that
says "We need water".....and folks (especially the RV'ers) will
stop and help them out.

Hope that this helps.

Tom Robertson
routes and mapping
Adventure Cycling


 

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General Discussion / beaten paths?...
« on: April 05, 2004, 07:17:06 pm »
I have had the pleasure of riding the Southern Tier a couple
of times....as well as working on the maps and updates to the
maps. The question that you pose, or some variant of that
question, is one that we hear almost daily here at Adventure
Cycling.

When we choose routes, the initial criteria that we shoot for is
safety....and this is generally roads that are more rural in
nature. From there, the next important criteria are
services....and having services that are somewhat close
together since most folks seem to average about 65 miles a
day. After that we look for scenic routes with some interesting
features along the way. All of these things added up means
that our routes are probably not the quickest way from point A
to point B.....but hopefully the route would provide experience
for a cyclists.

But every cyclist has their list of things that they want to see.
And since our routes are so specific, they generally don't
include all of these things. And we aren't saying that our
routes are the end-all be-all to bicycle touring in the US.
There are thousands of roads in the country that aren't part of
our routes that make for outstanding riding.

I think that the biggest advantage to touring on Adventure
Cycling routes is that the guess work is taken out of the
equation. We hear from people all of the time that have
toured for years....who have never used our routes. Then
after a tour using them they go on and on about how much
easier it made their tour. Their comments seem to be about
having the location of the services (that are update monthly
on our website) as much as the route.

Over the years we've learned that roads and highways
change all of the time. They get busier, lanes are added,
surfaces change.....and we try to keep up with these changes
and make them available as fast as we can. Just like we do
with the services.

Some people that tour do not like to know what is coming up.
They like the experience of just heading out to see what will
happen....talking to locals along the way to find out where to
ride, eat and stay. They might just be using a state map, and
following mostly major roads. People that tour this way can
have a great trip, just like folks that use an already existing
route.

When people call to ask about the best way to go about
designing their own trip we generally tell them this:

We generally don't have a lot of information when it comes to
traveling off of our routes. What we do have to offer though
are some good resources to help you with your planning.
The first thing that I suggest to folks is to take a look at the
routes that we have http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes/
network.cfm.  From there, find out which parts you could
potentially use. The next step is to get in touch with the bike
coordinators for the states in which they will be traveling
through. The bike coordinators have a wealth of information
that they can distribute for no charge. Most every state
publishes a bicycle map of their state that they will send out
for free....and while the maps aren't as detailed as ours, they
generally offer suggested roads for cycling through their
state. Some states, such as Colorado and Wisconsin, have
outstanding information, while other states are much simpler.
But every little piece of information can help. Here is a link to
the contact information for all of the bicycle coordinators:
http://www.bikewalk.org/contacts_links/
state_bikeped_coord.htm

Another good resource is our Cyclists' Yellowpages, which is
now on-line. From our Home Page you can select "Cyclists
Yellow Pages" in the banner towards the top of the page. Of
here is a link straight to the site: http://
www.adventurecycling.org/cyp/index.cfm This is a search
engine for the Yellowpages and has a lot of good reference
information about where to find information for your trip.

I will also add to folks that are planning their own trips…..we  
see more and more as State and U.S. highways are being
resurfurced that the DOT's are adding a nice 3 to 4 foot
shoulder to their highways. While traffic on these roadways
tends to be heavier than others, the shoulder can make for
some nice, safe riding…..depending on where the rumble
strips are placed.

Tom Robertson
routes and mapping
Adventure Cycling




 

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