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General Discussion / Re: The best music for touring
« on: September 30, 2021, 01:59:02 pm »
I like Sailing by Christopher Cross, On the Road Again by Willey Nelson (one of the few country sounds I like).  Heck, I like almost any "traveling" (themes about traveling or going to different places) type of song.  There are some I definitely do not like such as Carrie Underwood's Blown Away or Toto's Struck by Lightning or similar things I don't want to happen to me while riding.

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 30, 2021, 11:02:51 am »
Yeah, I would say you will see lots of goat heads.
Pete,out of curiosity, when did you ride this?  When we rode between Phoenix to the west coast in late October/early November, we hardly saw any.  Maybe it was past its seeding period or maybe we were lucky.  The big thing to remember is that when you pull to the side of the road, look for the plants beforehand.  They are pretty easy to recognize.

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Routes / Re: Route 98 along the Gulf of Mexico
« on: September 26, 2021, 10:19:17 pm »
I rode it westbound maybe 6 years ago while riding the Gold Coast.  It was fine.  I used some back roads when possible.  The only stretch we did not like was between Mary Ester and Navarre as there was just a ton of traffic and little shoulder. 

Also, under no circumstances should you cross the Dupont Bridge into Panama City from the air base on a Friday afternoon as work lets out and all the 20 something personnel are racing to get into PC for the night.  Easily in the top 3 scariest rides in 45+ years.  Other than that, the route was fine from Tampa to Galveston. 
Note that this was before at least 1 hurricane hit the area.  I think some bridges were knocked out and don't know if they have been repaired. 

I might have GPS data if you need it but not sure.  Privately message me if you think you might want it. 

Tailwinds, John

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 24, 2021, 08:41:35 pm »
I can almost guarantee the reviewer was not a touring cyclists then because the less than 1 pound total difference (chainring, different  front deraileur, etc.) between a 2x & 3x is not a big amount when riders (Pete excepted since my shoes probably weigh more than his total amount of gear  ;) ) are carrying 30-60 pounds of gear and food. That extra range of gears or the additional gears between the 2x gears really comes in handy of touring cyclists.  Road or club riders or even credit card touring cyclists, sure you only need a 2x but a fully loaded touring cyclist doing a long tour over varied topograpy benefits from as many and as wide a range as reasonable IMO.
Tailwinds, John

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DRH, it is best not to leave your phone number on here since I learned the hard way that there are some ways that it can be scanned some how by "bots" and then you start getting a bunch of spam calls.  Maybe alter the sequence, i.e spell out some numbers and put the 602 elsewhere.  I sure hate spammers.

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 20, 2021, 11:15:15 am »
I did.  I did it correctly.  I just prefer Sheldon's list of numbers versus a graph where I have to interpret the numbers.  Your prefer gear calculator is not bad, I just prefer the other.

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 20, 2021, 10:29:00 am »
Sorry, but with a Rohloff, your gear calculator is a bit confusing for my old brain.  I will stick with Sheldon's. 

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 20, 2021, 09:49:39 am »
IN the CyclingUSA article, to me this is the key have decades of experience.  Unfortunately, as I get older the strength and the lungs have weakened. 

Here’s the magic: In order to be most efficient, you must select a gear that you have the strength to spin comfortably, while maintaining a rhythmic breathing pattern. Simple enough, right? Comfortable cadence and rhythmic breathing are your two keys to success when going uphill. This will insure that you’re managing both your aerobic and muscular energy output, which won’t leave you high and dry before you hit the hill top or the end of your rides. 
 
You just need to decide what is best for you and then work on climb training if it bothers you a lot.

As far as how I get so low:  I use a Rohloff with a 40t front sprocket and a 22t rear sprocket.  With 700x35 tires, Sheldon Brown's Gear Calculator says I have a 13.8" low and with only a 72.5" high.  Again using the Gear Calculator, at 100rpms, my top speed would be 21.6mph (after which I am happy to coast) but as mentioned previously, I usually do a spin @ 120rpms, coast, repeat and get it increase speed on the flats when I have a massive tailwind.  My usual granny-gear-gasping-for-breath up-steep-climbs-at-60rpms speed is only 2.5mph (just above my usual 2.1mph walking speed).  Due to my lungs, I can maintain this for about 1/2 mile before the lungs give out.  Then I rest for a minute and do another 1/2 mile.  The high mountain passes can take me an entire day at times  :P .  For me, my lungs are the weak link (I have about 80% lung capacity) and since I can not improve the lungs, I have to do what I have to do to get up the climbs.

Tailwinds, John

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General Discussion / Re: Hillbilly dogs
« on: September 19, 2021, 01:00:36 pm »
There's a nice gravel ride near my home ruined by a pack of aggressive dogs that will run you off the bike against a bramble hedge until their redneck owner calls them off.  He calls them home but doesn't exactly discourage them.
Another roadbike ride nearby is universally avoided because the owner will run after and intimidate bikers in his car if someone sprays his aggressive dogs with water.
If I rode that road, I would tell the owner one time to get their dogs under control or the animal control would be called.  I would warn him that something like the 3rd call and the dogs are gone due to being a "continued menace".  And I would tell him that if he ever tries to intimidate me again I would give the video evidence to the police and press charges.  And I would follow through on both if need be.  To me, this case (and most cases) are usually about the owner not exerting control and/or the owner being a bully.  I feel sorry for the dogs because they are basically trained/not trained to do something. Obviously, feral dogs are another matter.  We would call animal control if the dogs attacked.

After several severe accidents (riders hospitalized) with dogs in our county, the bike clubs doesn't hesitate to call animal control and/or the sheriff and file complaints.  Usually, after the first complaint, the owner ensures the dog is fenced in and the owner doesn't try to pull that stuff anymore. Plus, in our county the owners are liable and once warned are really on the hook financially.

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 18, 2021, 10:06:58 pm »
(Of course, they'll never catch up to well trained guys like John, who push higher loads through higher RPM.)
You are sorely mistaken that they will never catch me.  I may spin like a gerbil but I use a fairly low gear so if I top 12mph on the level without wind, I am a happy camper.  Usually more like 11mph. Now 40 years ago, yes I was a little speed demon, especially on tough climbs.  Getting old sucks.



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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 18, 2021, 08:38:33 am »
I don’t find it comfortable to spin at 120 for long distances.


I don't either.  But my regular cadence is about 95 (down from 102 in my younger days).  However, occasionally, I will get a strong tailwind and a slightly ongoing 1% descent where I can spin at ~120 for 30 seconds, coast, spin, coast, etc. without tiring for an hour or more.  At 120, there really is very little resistance and ironically if I slow down, it is actually a bit harder to pedal while going slower. 

My point was, unless you are racing, a 100"+ high gear is a waste as it is rarely used.  I prefer to have more usable gears.

I know I am about at my fatigue limit when my cadence drops to 60 or below.  That is when my tank is on fumes.  It is definitely time to start looking for a place to camp.

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Gear Talk / Re: 1X, 2X, or 3X
« on: September 17, 2021, 09:44:44 am »
I have a few bike with Rohloffs on them so they are I guess 1x.  As far as the answer goes, it really doesn't matter.  What does matter is that you have good spacing and usability of the gears.  In a 2x or 3x setup the extreme angles (small front & rear or large front and rear sprockets) should not be used.  Do a gear charge over at Sheldon Brown's "Derailer Gear Calculator" to see what the specific gear setup looks like.  A lot of 2x & 3x setups use the same (or very close) gear but on different sprocket patterns so they are in effect duplicates or wasted gears. 

That said, I would worry more about having a low enough low and not worry about the high.  My current low is about 14.5" and the high is only 76".  If I spin out on the high at 120rpms, I am doing 27mph which is quite fast enough for me when fully loaded.  For me, anything above 75" is basically wasted gearing as I typically start to coast above 25mph when going downhill. 

The 14" low is about as low as I can go and maintain enough forward momentum without falling over.  This gets me up the steepest hills if my lungs can keep up.  Due to a medical issue, the lungs are my weak link, not the legs. But with good legs and good lungs, you should be able to climb pretty much any hill (slowly) with a 14" low.

As far as electronic gears shifting, I would be concerned if it breaks/stops working on a ride like the TA as there are places where the next bike shop is 200 miles away.  Using the tried and tested systems if probably the best approach or be prepared to fix it yourself and/or wait a few days for parts.

Tailwinds, John

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I'll be there either a Tuesday or Wednesday early morning to avoid the heat
Maybe I am missing something but it is around 88 miles between Brawley and Blythe so you will have afternoon temps also unless you are a speed demon.  The only  campgrounds between the two towns are near Glamis IIRC.

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Just be sure to avoid the Brawley to Blythe section Friday thru Sunday (and holiday weekdays) as the RV/ATV traffic is pretty heavy to/from Glamis and they are not professional truck drivers.

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General Discussion / Re: Finding accommodation
« on: September 15, 2021, 03:01:04 pm »
A lot of Kansas allows camping in the city parks (ask first).  Not much help for you, but still.  Churches are a little more helpful in the central plains also.

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