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Still have not pulled the trigger on a GPSR, but narrowed it down to Garmin Oregon, likely the 450, as I don't need the camera of the higher model numbers, and the Montana is out of my budget.

Question:  Does the Oregon 450 have enough memory to hold the all SE 24K topo, plus City Navigator?  I don't see much on memory footprint of either package.--george

I'm still on the hunt for a touring GPS mapper, and in addition to the 60 Csx, I've recently seen a used Oregon 300 for sale (discontinued).  Does anyone have any thoughts on the 300 VS 60 Csx?  The prices are roughly the same.--george

Thanks Fred!

If I buy City Navigator does it come w/ full unlock code for all maps on DVD?  I seem to recall that for some versions 10 years ago, Garmin anted to sell you unlock codes by regions of the USA.

Also, what does "NT" Mean?  Does a 60CSX need or can it use an "NT" version of maps?

Thanks Fred, I think there is a 60CSX in my future.

I've read the posts at some length, and noticed that there has not been a lot of traffic on the selection of a touring, mapping GPSR from Garmin in recent months. My local Craigslist has two GPS60CSX for sale at a good price (one NIB, the other good used), & I've wondered if the advice given by Fred & others has changed any since fall of 2011. If I get the 60CSX, what am I giving up for touring over the 62 series which I understand replaces the 60 series?--george

mjm:  If its your bike, you may have better luck advertising it on, who rides a 2003 Tour Easy

Gear Talk / Re: hub generators
« on: February 07, 2011, 11:09:24 pm »
I have & very much like my SON 20 (bought complete wheel from Peter White), on a 406 rim, on the front of my Tour Easy recumbent.  On the first ride after fitting, I noticed a definite vibration in the handlebars at about 19 mph, settling out above 21 mph.  I think the vibration is due to the SON hub generator.--george

Gear Talk / Luxury Lite Camp Cot review
« on: July 11, 2010, 09:22:49 pm »
Introduction:  I first heard about the Luxury Lite cot several years ago on forums, where it made a splash.  I looked at the website, & was intrigued, but then there is the price of $220, so I held off.  Fast forward a year & I went on the Alabama’s Magnificent Bicycling Adventure (AMBA) cycletour for a week around Auburn Alabama & had trouble getting to sleep in the ultralight tent on the ground even assisted by my one inch thick Thermarest mattress-old age I guess.  The ground was uneven, lumpy and I just had trouble dropping off.

Fast forward another year & I was preparing to go back to AMBA, and recalling last year’s experience, I ordered the cot as a birthday present to myself.  When it arrived, I was impressed by the construction & materials used-high quality all around.  I set it up several times at home using the step by step instructions, then took it to work to show some mates who are ultralight campers.  They too were impressed.  By then I no longer needed the instructions to set it up, or put it away.

Construction & assembly: The cot has a stout laminated fabric sleeping surface with fiber reinforcement built sort of like a “blue tarp”, plus shock corded aluminum side rails which are slipped into a sleeve on the sides of the sleeping surface. The side rail ends could use a “bullet shaped” plastic tip insert to ease the slide through nearly six feet of sleeve.  Then one mates the cot feet & tension poles (gold & black anodized color-coded) into six assemblies, four single pole & two double pole. The double pole assemblies are placed under the torso where the greatest load is, and are a bit unusual in that you put a 180-degree twist into them as you mate them to the sleeping surface.  The sleeping surface is quite taunt, and the first few times you engage the foot assemblies, you will be concerned that you might kink the gold & black aluminum foot poles-but don’t worry the construction is stout, and the instructions detailed.

One thing that seemed unusual was that both the website & instructions suggested placing the cot under the tent.  That might work OK for a multi-person tent, but not for a near coffin ultralight (& quite small) tent.   Upon reflection, I realized what they were getting at but not saying. I believe the problem they were trying to solve is that the 12 hard plastic feet of the cot were point or concentrated loads on the tent floor, and had likely been responsible for abrading or wearing through the tent floor!  By placing the cot under the tent, they avoided that problem.

My solution, which has worked so far with no noticeable abrasion on the tent floor (7 nights), was to cut some 4” x 4” squares off of the end of my yoga mat (OK, my secret cycling weapon is out now) and place the mat pieces between the plastic feet & the tent floor.  I was worried that as I moved around in the tent, rolled over, & got on & off the cot over the week that the mat squares might work their way out from under the cot feet, but they stayed just where I placed them.  After seeing my concern, another buddy suggested I cover the bottom of the feet with some foam pipe insulation from the Home Center, but I’m satisfied with yoga mat.  So for now, the stack of mat squares (roughly a 4” x 4” x 4” cube) stay in the cot storage bag, and will be used each time the cot is used.

Field Test: I took the Thermarest mattress just in case the cot did not work out, but left it in the car for the first two nights.  During those nights I was comfortable, but noticed that I had a sore hip (I’m a side sleeper) in the morning.  The hip was not touching the ground, as the cot keeps you up about 4” off the tent floor.  After the second night of a sore hip (greater trochanter), I decided that perhaps the tension (like a drumhead!) of the cot fabric was great enough that I had a pressure point on the hip.  For the rest of the cycletour, I put the Thermarest on top of the cot-hip pain problem solved & good sleeping!

Another thing I noticed was that the plastic feet to cot interface makes a hard bump along the side rail of the cot, and that was just where a bony part of my arm wanted to rest.  Sure I could move the arm toward my head or feet & avoid the hard plastic bump, but when I’d wake up, the arm was right on top of a hard bump.  The Thermarest raised me up just enough to make the hard bump annoyance go away.  So while I had hoped that the cot would replace the Thermarest (from a mass & volume standpoint), for me at least, they are a better team together, than either by itself.

As an aside, another advantage of the cot is that if your tent floor leaks & you have water on the floor, you will not get wet as you are up 4” off the floor.  I tested this theory one morning about 1:30 AM, as it rained quite hard for several hours. Fortunately the tent floor was dry.


Pros:  Good design, materials, instructions & construction leading to better sleeping.  Made in USA, & keeps you up off the ground & tent floor.  Now a part of my regular kit!

Cons:  Cost, plus another bit of kit to carry if you camp unsupported. The need to add cushions under cot feet to avoid tent floor abrasion; and I still use the Thermarest on top of it.  The manufacturer should consider adding “bullet ends” to cot side rails.

Dan:  Folks probably would like to know what size it is, either by wheelbase, or letters (S, S/M, M, M/L, L, XL, XXL, etc), color, whether it is an Expedition (typically lower geared for touring & with wider rims & tires -406 front) or Speed & Sport (larger front triple & narrow rims/tires usually with 451 front tire), as well as what seat back it has-Koolback (webbed),Cobra or Sprinter.  You might also want to cross post on bentrideronline.  Best of luck in the sale-I ride one.--george

General Discussion / Re: Neck and shoulder pain
« on: September 26, 2009, 01:12:54 am »
If you seriously try the suggestions above and still get not enough relief, it may be time to consider (dare I say it?) a recumbent.  Full disclosure-I ride a Tour Easy EX long wheel base recumbent  (  Bents are another set of compromises that may or may not work for you.  There is more diversity in the bent world than in the upright world, and the choices can be tough to sort out-test ride a lot of styles before you buy.  Two or three wheels, long or short wheelbase, above or below seat steering- tweener bars...  Hard shell seat or mesh-well you get the idea.  They are typically heavier, some say worse climbers, but at the end of the day, the only thing that hurts is my tired legs, and some occasional "recumbutt".  I'm sitting upright in my lawn chair, head looking forward, arms unloaded, admiring the scenery, and I can put my feet down while in the saddle.  When you are ready try

General Discussion / Re: Recumbents
« on: May 05, 2009, 01:25:05 pm »
Steve: I'd agree.  My faired Tour Easy Expedition with tailsok works nicely for me, and I'll ride it on AMBA in late May.  It uses standard mountain bike components and has a wide gear inch range (19-113).  While it's heavy, it's very comfy and tracks well.  In the lighting department it has a SON hub dyno and twin IQ Fly LEDs, plus a wired LED taillight with standlight.  I'm never without light.  Perhaps in time, more folks will give 'bents a try.--george

Cycling Events / Ride AMBA Cycletour in May 2009
« on: February 22, 2009, 11:20:29 pm »
Come one, come all to Alabama's new cycletour May 23-30 2009.  We'll do loops around Auburn AL, and camp at Chewacla State Park (no breaking camp till the ride is over!).  Note there are some cabins available at Chewacla.  I'll be camping, but others will stay in motels.  See  This ride has lots to do & see, and has a midweek optional down/play day (I'll probably do that).  AMBA is a fundraiser for AlaBike, our statewide cycling advocacy group, working to make Alabama bike friendly.

Full disclosure:  I'm a member of the AlaBike board:

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