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Gear Talk / Re: Ultralight Panniers?
« on: January 29, 2014, 09:30:57 pm »
Pete and John
Wow. You both sent me Pete's article. I read it and got an introductory education. You both sound like experienced ultralight backpackers.

Z Packs!? Speaking of ultralight articles, the owner of Z Packs, "Samuri Joe" Valesco, took the photo in this article of mine when we finished the Pacific Crest Trail together. .

My bike came with a rear rack.  The 7 pounds of Ortleibs are going back.  I have Z Packs as a direction to go. If I go without panniers, like Pete does, they have great stuff sacks.  They also sell the materials to make a set of panniers. I have Pete's article to refer back to while I make gear changes. This is amazing. Someone suggested this site this morning and I have all of this now from just one post!

Thank You


Gear Talk / Ultralight Panniers?
« on: January 29, 2014, 02:23:17 pm »
I am brand new to all this, but I am an ultralight long distance backpacker. I live on the Sierra Cascade Route and the Pacific Crest Trail at Warner Springs, CA.
QUESTION: Right now total gear(similar to backpacking) minus food and water is under 10 pounds including gear to camp in freezing conditions. The Frontroller and Backroller Ortleib panniers I purchased weigh 7 pounds total! In normal weather conditions the bags will weigh as much as my gear! 
There must be someone making lighter bags? I calculate I could make a set of 4 waterproof, durable panniers of a similar size weighing a total of 2 pounds, BUT that would take me mega hours and the material costs of a bit of trial and error on expensive materials.
Any suggestions on lightening up a bit?
Is there another forum or source for "ultralight" touring or is this forum my best bet?

Thank you
Warner Springs Monty
The Fun goes Up when the Weight Goes Down ©warnerspringsmontytam

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