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General Discussion / Re: Touring/Hybrid Bike recommendation
« on: June 07, 2019, 09:12:51 am »
I'm going to do the Vancouver BC to Mexico route this coming March-ish, I'll be traveling very light; using a credit card.
I'm afraid my beloved Cannondale R2000 is not suitable; so I'm looking for another (used) bike (2000 to ~2014).
My preference is to go light (Aluminium or Titanium) and am looking for something with 700 x 38mm tires, or equivalent, or in that neighborhood.
Any suggestions for either a Touring bike or Hybrid bike?
I'm kinda floundering with the overload of data available :)

Hi Day Tripper;

I'm curious as to what you ended up using for a bike. I posted a similar inquiry about 2 weeks ago. I plan to tour coast to coast next year carrying rear panniers, but going as light as I can, maybe....25-30 lbs max. I'm looking at a ti gravel bike; Lynskey GR270 and the co assures me it can do the job. Folks out there seem skeptical and suggest a traditional 'loaded touring' bike. The irony is that when I speak to tourers in person, they have used a gravel bike.

Your thoughts?

Well, it appears that the consensus and direction is to seriously consider using a traditional loaded touring concept.
I'm leaning in that direction with the hope to discover a more lively compromise.

Let me toss in one more vote for the "heavy" touring bike.  Note the quotation marks.

I tend to use one of my touring bikes for commuting, group rides, long weekend rides, etc., just because it's always set up and ready.  I get some guff, along the lines of "You'd ride so much faster on a light bike."  That's not my experience, though; when I do pull out the lighter bike, even though it's at least eight (8) pounds lighter, the bike disappears within a quarter mile of getting on it.  I suspect if I took off the next 40 pounds I might speed up more...

What I do notice is the load.  Light commute load, hardly there.  Heavy load (add lunch, shoes, coffee, electronics, etc.) and the bike starts to feel like a slug.  Similar to Pete's experience, I usually find the threshold between light and heavy loads around 10-15 pounds.  I usually do a couple apple runs every fall; the touring bike is a joy to ride out to the orchard, and I have to enjoy the apple cider and stop to munch an apple coming back.  The bike disappears, but the load endures as long as it's on the bike.

My recommendation, as usual, is buy what you like.  We're all susceptible to analysis paralysis, and subconscious influence.  You read the web pages marketing the latest and greatest, or the glossy magazines with marketing reviews of the latest fad, and it's obviously the wonderfulest thing on the planet. 

After all your reading, go find some bikes and test ride them.  If possible, load them up and ride them 3-5 miles.  I did something like that some years ago.  Called around, and the nearest place that had the model I wanted and one I wanted to try, was 200 miles away.  I went down and test rode everything I could find in one afternoon, and brought a totally different model home, and rode that model across the country two years later.  So try as many as you can yourself, and buy the one you want to ride.

I definitely plan to go as light as possible short of taking a large risk. The feedback seems roughly 50-50 re a gravel bike and 'loaded touring', I'll do what I can to tests ride given some are a distance or online. Folks report that they use both concepts and they work.

Yes, John, I'm buying a new bike. The quandary is finding a bike that can manage a loaded C2C tour and be able to navigate some dirt roads post tour. Hence the gravel/tour concept, if it exists without committing to a light adventure touring capacity bike.
Point well taken; sell the traditional tour for a gravel bike, although I may tour again!



I do plan on carrying a stove, sleeping bag, tent, extra clothes- all ultralight. I'm looking at a Lynskey GR270 and they assure me that it can manage a fairly significant load. I finding titanium appealing. Adrenaline Bikes in Orange, CA reports that one of their employees used this bike to tour across as well.
But I hear your voice about not traveling across country that way.
As mentioned, I'm concerned about the rack panniers being set too far back which would throw the bike out of balance and heel strike (size 46- 13 shoes). I'm 210 lbs and 6'3" .
I may lean back to the CoMotion Deschutes, a steel loaded touring favorite made in Portland,OR.
Other considerations- Kona Sutra, Salsa Vaya, Habanero Ti bikes in Mesa ,AZ

What did you use for loaded touring?

Hi All;

This may seem redundant, but I'm exploring and deliberating about what geometry/build to use for a coast to coast tour, self sustained.
I likely will carry 30-40 lbs on a rear rack as an estimate ( not sure about a front rack). I like the concept of a gravel/touring that affords multiple use after the tour.
I'm concerned about long enough chain-stay and heel strike as well as weight distribution.

Thoughts and suggestions?


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