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Routes / Re: Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 19, 2021, 09:57:18 pm »
Yes, they may be out of date, but at least the paper maps and the gpx will match!

Routes / Re: Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 19, 2021, 06:36:32 pm »

ACA got back to me today and is sending the three updated maps for free. Kudos to them. And they’ll try to get some kind of notice put on the updated maps on their web site.

Unfortunately, I’m having them sent to my home address. We made the difficult decision to put the ride on hold - the excessive heat warnings in eastern Montana, and similar heat in North Dakota - and so will put them to good use sometime in the future.

Thanks all for your helpful suggestions.

Routes / Re: Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 16, 2021, 11:36:00 pm »
John, thanks for the good advice on general delivery!

Routes / Re: Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 16, 2021, 11:34:36 pm »
Yes, I understand - two routes are better than none.

I have to admit that part of the issue is money - $100 for maps, $100 for gpx files - purchased both to capitalize on the features offered by each. But now 3 of 11 paper maps don’t match the gpx files, so over 25% doesn’t work.

Another part of the issue is that I would have purchased the three newer versions of the maps if I had known they were needed.

I use google maps a lot, but had an issue with it this afternoon - looking for a motel for a long time with loaded bikes changing directions on a busy street and the motel was nowhere to be found until I called the motel and found that google used the wrong address. It’s still very helpful most of the time, though.

Routes / Re: Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 16, 2021, 10:41:23 pm »
The problem is that the paper map is dated 2016 and the gpx file is dated 2020. I use the paper maps for a larger picture of the route (also the services because the Bolt doesn’t read the services file) and the gpx for those “go 2 blocks east, turn right at Main, 2.5 miles to Random Road,” etc. through towns and alternate routes. So now I have one route on paper, one on the computer: apples to oranges, Chevy to Ford, Suntour to Shimano, Mac to Windows.

Routes / Northern Tier map set issues
« on: July 16, 2021, 07:32:12 pm »
I bought the Northern Tier map set in November of 2019, and the gpx files in June of 2021. My wife and I started riding from the west on June 23 and are now somewhere in Montana. Section 1 and Section 2 worked fine on my Bolt, but when I got to Section 3 there were no bread crumbs to follow. I finally figured out that my paper map isn’t the current version and therefore doesn’t match the gpx data. I looked at other map sections and found that Section 4 and Section 7 have newer map versions, so those, too, won’t work with my gpx data.

I checked ACA’s updates page and downloaded and printed the updates for the northern tier before starting the ride. No mention of route changes. Nothing to suggest that I should buy a new map.

Now I have to figure out how long it will take ACA to mail me new maps, figure out where we might be at that time, and figure out which post office to choose as a general delivery address for the maps.

I contacted ACA and the response was, basically, you should buy the current map set. I also saw a similar response from them on another forum page. We’ll, I would have bought the current map set if I knew I needed something different, but since nothing was mentioned on the updates page why would I?

I’m very frustrated with ACA right now.

GPS & Digital Data Discussion / Re: Is gpx info working on my Bolt?
« on: June 13, 2021, 06:27:32 pm »
Thanks, all, for your quick responses!

It's my understanding that the ACA files are route files, not track files.
I just looked again and the ACA files are track files.

The link you provided is for general gpx/tcx files.
I checked this, too, and the ACA files are gpx, so it should work without going through RWGPS.

I guess I’ll give it a shot and hope that it works . . . . . paper maps being my backup, of course. I’ll plan to post an update here in a couple weeks, since our first few days are off route.

Many thanks!

GPS & Digital Data Discussion / Is gpx info working on my Bolt?
« on: June 13, 2021, 03:34:03 pm »
My wife and will be starting the Northern Tier route in a few days. I have the ACA paper maps and am planning to purchase the gpx files for the route. I’ve read on a forum page questions from a poster who was en route and the info on the bike computer wasn’t working as expected. Once I purchase the gpx files and sync them to my Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt as per Wahoo’s instructions (, is there a way to be sure everything will work right before starting in Washington?

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