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« on: February 21, 2007, 10:06:40 am »
hey smiley!
take a look at surly frames--the long haul trucker (more of a road tourer) or the karate monkey (a 29er mtb frame). surly makes real nice steel frames with all the braze-ons. and real high quality and durability for around 450 dollars or so. i don't know if you can get them easily in ireland or england, but it'd be worth checking. like the previous poster pointed out, it's gonna be hard to get a proper tourer for under, i'd say, 1500 dollars. but if you spent that, i think you could build yourself a pretty nice bike.
i also heard that thorn bikes is selling off one of their derailleur models as they are going to all rohloff hubs. if so, thorns are (as you probably know!), REAL nice frames. check them too as they're english.
good luck.