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Routes / Re: Newbie Advice / Western Express
« on: August 27, 2012, 06:55:28 pm »
G'day Scott,

I recently rode the Western Express (Cedar City to San Francisco).

I wasn't carrying a cell phone so can't advise about cell service.

The shoulders on US50 are variable and many sections have rumble strips, although there are some sections that don't. The worst sections are the sections from the Lahontan Reservoir to Fallon (approx 20 miles) and then from Fallon to Sand Mountain (approx 20 miles). The shoulders on both these sections are all but unridable, and there was a large volume of heavy traffic along this section (between Sand Mountain and Fallon) when I rode it. Try to avoid the Fallon to Sand Mountain section on week-ends or public holidays.

Elsewhere, it is possible to ride to the inside of the rumble strips, along those sections which do have them. You will find a lovely, long flat section of newly surfaced road on the way into Eureka.

The grades of the climbs are not overly difficult, however, the wind is the greater factor.

In the main, I found the traffic along US50 to be very courteous and gave me as much room as possible.

I see that you have made reservations for your accommodation, which is a good idea. Motel accommodation can be a bit tricky otherwise.

It is magnificent country to ride through. Very challenging but equally very rewarding.

Hope this helps. Have a great ride.

Routes / Re: Need Route and info from Georgia to San Diego
« on: August 17, 2012, 04:29:41 pm »
G'day John,

It was possible to ride to the outside of the rumble strips, however the shoulder had rough cracks, (or expansion seams) across it every ten feet or so. These cracks were raised and very rough to ride. Additionally, there was shrubbery growing right alongside the guardrail, and often the branches from the shrubbery were blocking the shoulder, so I either had to swerve out into the traffic lane (crossing the rumble strips) or simply allow the branches to brush against my arm. There was also a large amount of rocks and debris on the shoulder, and finally, the traffic volume was fairly large, making it dangerous to ride out in the traffic lane for much of the time.

This was the situation from Bylas to Peridot, on route 70, and after Peridot the shoulder was good. From Globe to Bylas, much of the shoulder had those expansion seams which made for an annoying ker-plunk, ker-plunk as I rode over them, but this section was nowhere near as bad as the section from Bylas to Peridot.

I don't know what the condition of the San Carlos alternate is like, but if I were rdiing this section again, I would take the alternative and not route 70.

Hope this helps and that you have a great ride.


Routes / Re: Need Route and info from Georgia to San Diego
« on: August 16, 2012, 11:40:24 pm »
G'day dwboca.

I've only just caught up with this thread and associated it with your "departure date" thread.

The Queen Creek tunnel between Globe AZ and Superior AZ is not too bad, but you will hit the entrance at pace. I found that as I entered it at pace, I quickly realised that I couldn't see the edge of the road, so I veered out as far left as I dared. It is not particularly long and you will pass through it fairly quickly. It is better to be descending than climbing through this tunnel.

Route 70 out of Bylas AZ has a particularly poor shoulder. ACA maps do have an alternate route (San Carlos alternate). They advise that this alternate has poor surfaces, but very little traffic. It is 17 miles longer than the main route. If I were riding this section again, I would ride the alternate route, even though I don't know what the road is like. That's how bad I thought the shoulder on route 70 was.

Routes / Re: Southern Route: Start in March, April, or May?
« on: August 15, 2012, 05:50:35 pm »
I rode the ST section from St. Augustine to Phoenix this year. I started on 18th March and was in Phoenix by 5th May. I had nice cool early mornings throughout Florida;Alabama,Mississippi & Louisiana and was always off the road by about mid-day, when it started to get hot.

Texas;New Mexico; and Arizona were warming up, but once again I was nearly always off the road before it got too hot.

Wind conditions were favourable.

Your planned timetable, of last week in March to first week of April, shoud be good, but I wouldn't advise leaving it any later than that.

Enjoy the ride. It is spectacular.

Routes / Re: Credit Card Touring the Western Express
« on: June 29, 2012, 01:09:00 am »

I have just returned from a C to C tour which included part of the Western Express (riding east to west).

As Ben posts, motel/hotel accommodation in Eureka and Austin was a bit scarce. The motel I stayed at in Eureka, filled up prety quickly & I was lucky to get the last available room in Austin, where I got snowed in (late May). I had to camp at Cold Springs Station, although I might have been able to get a room at Middlegate Station had I cycled further that day, but then perhpas not.

 Baker is only a small place, with a restaurant which is not open every day of the week, and a grocery store that looks like it has come out of  Cold War Europe. Don't rely on stocking up there. The motel where I stayed in Baker seemed to fill up quickly, once they opened for registrations (3.30pm) and the diner that was attached wasn't open that particular night, (no chef). Milford UT, also has limited motel accommodation although the motel you will come across on the western edge of town is a great place to stay, and has a diner attached to it.

US50 between Fallon and sand Mountain was particularly harrowing. I rode it on Memorial Monday, and there was a very large volume of RV traffic coming away from some ATV event at Sand Mountain. I would advise doing some research on the internet about what events have been scheduled for Sand Mountain, and to avoid it on week-ends if at all possible.

As Ben also posted, the grades of the climbs through Nevada are all manageable. It is the wind which is the killer.

Notwithstanding all that, the W.E. experience was stunningly beautiful, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone.

Please feel free to ask me for any further details if you think I can help.

Hope you have a safe and enjoyable ride.


General Discussion / Re: Hello, I have some questions. help us plz.
« on: February 01, 2012, 04:23:43 am »
Hello Lee,

You might find the following link useful. It is by a countrywoman of yours.

General Discussion / Re: Southern Tier March and April 2012
« on: December 04, 2011, 04:14:02 pm »
Hello Mapman,

I'll be starting from St Augustine and heading west, on 18th March. I'll be riding the ST as far as Tempe Arizona, and then turning north, so our paths should cross somewhere along the way.


Routes / Re: Southern Tier - Oct 2012 Questions about maps and route
« on: October 23, 2011, 10:20:38 pm »
There are a couple of journals on CGOAB which might help you, especially as they are currently riding now, in October, which is what you are planning for next year. The first journalist has diverted from the ST route a number of times and it would seem that impassable bridges were the major concern.

Anyway, for what it is worth, here are the links.

Hope you have a great tour.

Routes / Re: Western Express - Nevada & Utah
« on: September 01, 2011, 06:58:05 pm »
And another couple of useful journals from GCOAB



Routes / Re: Route 66?
« on: August 09, 2011, 02:49:29 am »
There is an excellent journal on GCOAB of a touring cyclist riding the route at the moment. It might offer some insights.

Routes / Re: Route suggestions request
« on: July 15, 2011, 07:33:49 pm »
Have you checked out CGOAB?

In particular the following two journals. The author took 13 days just to complete the Death Valley tour, so your plan of 3 weeks in total might be a tad ambitious.

The author invites queries vis his guestbooks.

General Discussion / Re: High Visibility - Always Good or Not?
« on: June 17, 2011, 12:13:04 am »
This article was just publised in our local paper today. Probably not so much use for touring situations, but none the less, a pretty good idea I think.

Routes / Re: Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 09, 2011, 10:30:10 pm »
ACA had a really cool poster of someone doing the Going to the Sun Highway a Logan Pass.

If this is the one it is still available.

I have had that poster hanging on my lounge room wall for the past 20 years now. I sent away to ACA for mine, once I had gotten back home, and then had it framed. It is a wonderful poster and amazing that it is still available.

I cycled over Going To The Sun highway (E to W) in late July, so no problems with its being open. The poster depicts the "cyclist" climbing from the western side of the pass.

General Discussion / Re: ACA Maps
« on: April 27, 2011, 05:12:11 am »
Maybe it's just me, but I think that the ACA maps are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I marvel at their artistry; I am stunned at the enormous number of hours of route research that has gone into them; I am gobsmacked at the amount of invaluable information in their service directories; I am enlightened by the field notes contained in section, informing me of the history and geography of the area I am riding through; they give me intricate turn by turn instructions no matter in which direction I am riding; and finally, they are a precious souvenir, a keepsake of my ride that I can refer to at any time after my tour, remembering a particular strecth of road here and there, a lung bursting climb...........

You see, we have nothing like them here in the land down under.

They are worth every cent!

The Northern Tier used to pass right across Ohio. The section of Maps was Section 2 of the Iowa to Maine Route, and went from Corry PA to Monroeville IN. The total distance was 370 miles.

Perhaps if you contacted ACA, they might be able to assist you. If not, I would be happy to try to help out. I cycled the route in 1991, so obviously, there could be some changes. The trickiest part of that old route was the Cleveland Bypass section.

Anyway, try ACA.


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