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General Discussion / C&O trail
« Last post by aggie on July 29, 2021, 07:56:52 pm »
I am currently riding the C&O from Cumberland to DC.  IMO this has to be one of the poorest maintained trails in the country.  I understand NPS is underfunded but it appears they do absolutely no trail maintenance other than a bit of mowing.  The trail is extremely rough, rutted and muddy (even without rain).  It seems like an unmaintained logging road with rocks, roots, ruts and holes.  They have closed part of the trail (signage) near the Paw Paw tunnel for no apparent good reason.  There isn’t any work currently being done on the cliff face that would necessitate a horribly difficult detour.  The GAP trail is a paved (even though it isn’t paved - just crushed limestone) superhighway compared to the C&O.


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General Discussion / Re: Best Tips for Cooking on the Road
« Last post by Galloper on July 29, 2021, 02:08:05 pm »
One of my all time favourite touring (and, indeed, any other time) food is porridge, or oatmeal as it is usually called in the USA.   It's quick and easy to prepare and I will often add any fruit I have available to the pot.   If you have good quality cooking oats, you can use them to make up a trail mix as well.

I'm also a big fan of garlic and olive oil and in that vein, I recently found black pepper and granulated garlic in a small pepper grinder type jar in my local supermarket.   These small spice jars are light and easy to carry, offering a lot of flavour for any meal.
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Leaving Butte on 7/29 - are you suggesting going in alternate and not route. I do not see that pioneer hwy is closed but could be dangerous. Looking for opinion. Thank you !
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Not certain where this should be posted. I am currently in Ovando. Due to the  death in their town, the local church has opened up their basement to all cyclists. It is quite a nice space and clean and cool. There is no donation box yet, but I recommend those who use the facilities leave a donation on the kitchen counter. (Not large enough for big groups.)

A reminder that showers are available for about $10 at the Ovando Inn.

One should count on breakfast or lunch at The Stray Bullet.

A reminder that the Blackfoot Angler cannot only get you the right fly, but can help with some minor bike repairs.

Nice of you to pass along the information. And donations are an excellent idea.  When I did the NT the senior center in Oxford Junction, IA offered to let us spend the night in air conditioned bliss on a scorching day.  We left a donation that matched our average daily camping budget.
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Routes / Re: Brittany, Normandy; idea plea
« Last post by alkaline on July 27, 2021, 07:44:55 pm »
Greetings,



Thank you for the quick reply.


Will follow your suggestion. CrazyGuyOnaBike.


Got it.


Much appreciated.




Yours awheel cycling,
charles in Yakima
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Routes / Re: Bicycle Camper killed by grizzly bear in Ovando, MT (July 6, 2021)
« Last post by ray b on July 27, 2021, 06:35:33 pm »
Not certain where this should be posted. I am currently in Ovando. Due to the  death in their town, the local church has opened up their basement to all cyclists. It is quite a nice space and clean and cool. There is no donation box yet, but I recommend those who use the facilities leave a donation on the kitchen counter.

(Not large enough for big groups.)  Big groups have recently been accommodated at the school gym.

A reminder that showers are available for about $10 at the Ovando Inn.

One should count on breakfast or lunch at The Stray Bullet.

A reminder that the Blackfoot Angler cannot only get you the right fly, but can help with some minor bike repairs.
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Montana DOT has deemed the "Tunnel #9" (mile 4.8 southbound) on the I-15 alternate unsafe and welded steel grates across the tunnel. This makes the I-15 alternate impassable. The options are either to use the Main Route, or to ride I-15 the whole way between Butte and I-15 Exit #151/Junction with Boulder River Rd. See attached map.

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The bridge on CR K over the Wisconsin River is out and being replaced.  It is expected to be closed until October.
During construction, you can use the recreation bridge on the south side of CR K.  It is rough from ATV use, but you should be able to walk your bike across.  Otherwise the County's suggested reroute is 24 mi. long.

You can find updates on the Vilas County website: https://www.vilascountywi.gov/departments/services/highway_department/road_construction.php
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General Discussion / Re: Wild fires disturbing your tour?
« Last post by SwampYankee on July 27, 2021, 03:13:08 pm »
Thanks for all the discussion. Really appreciate this forum and everyone on it. It’s been an invaluable tool for our trip this year.

We left Twin Bridges and cycled to Butte. Figuring this gave us the best and most options. It was a nice ride over Pipestone Pass but a smoky one which certainly impacted our health. it was more difficult then Powder River pass in the Big Horns  because of air quality. We also met a number of cyclists both TransAm and GMDBR and CDT hikers Who were in the same situation trying to reroute around fires. Especially the Alder Creek and the Trail Creek fires.

We Took a shuttle from Butte to Missoula and watched the situation, visited ACA HQ (very nice experience), and waited for a few days. BTW Linked Adventures Shuttle (406) 498-9653, Gina Evans. Great resource and service running a large area east and west from Butte. Use her if needed.

In the end we’ve opted to go home and finish the ride next June. Before fire season hopefully. Even if we continued it would simply be for ego and to say “we did it”. It would not be for the beauty, the enjoyment of the experience, fishing the Lochsa and clearwater, or a relaxing ride through Lolo, Idaho, and the Columbia Gorge. It be smoky, stressful and a required reroute around sections we were really looking forward to touring through. Gotta ride your own ride.

I talked with some folks at ACA including some who had traveled through Lolo on the days before we arrived. No one said go for it.

Stay safe out there everyone, thanks again, SwampYankee
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General Discussion / Re: Deciphering AMTRAK
« Last post by adventurepdx on July 27, 2021, 01:20:42 pm »

That would be a good reason...if only it were true...

Highways are paid for mostly by user fees in the form of fuel taxes.  Still, if you add in various high-cost 'bridge to nowhere' pork-barrel projects, there's overall around a 1¢/mile general taxpayer subsidy for automobile, intercity bus and heavy truck transportation.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2013/01/23/drivers-cover-just-51-percent-of-u-s-road-spending/


Fuel taxes do not pay 100% of highways/roads. There are other subsidies, and they are significant. And if we want to go down that road, there's the whole "bikes don't pay for their share of the roads, so don't deserve to be on them" argument that gets thrown around because of that assumption.

So, Amtrak subsidies were 36 cents per passenger mile pre-COVID.  Amtrak is currently carrying about 0.11% of this country's passenger traffic, and basically 0% of the country's freight.  If Amtrak were totally and completely shut down this afternoon, the impact would not even be able to be measured on next quarter's GDP.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2012/09/21/reminder-amtrak-subsidies-pale-in-comparison-to-highway-subsidies/

Despite it all, Amtrak covers 85 percent of its operating costs with ticket sales and other revenues, according to that link.

And if we want Amtrak to have more than a below 1% share of travel in the US, the only way is to expand the network. And the only way to do that is give them more money, not continuously starve them as they have been for 50 years while saying they get too much money at the same time.

My question stands:  Can someone give me a compelling reason why I should ask the American tax payers to subsidize my adventures?

How about this:
Americans need more options for travel. Built-in redundancy is good, especially when one mode has to suddenly shut down (9/11). And if we are concerned about climate change, one way to combat that is by getting people out of their cars and out of airplanes. Bicycling is good, but I don't always have the time to bike long-distances.
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