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Routes / Re: Why did ACA change the Southern Tier
« Last post by John Nelson on December 05, 2025, 01:49:44 am »
The only reasons I can think of are that the updated route is less hilly
When has the ACA ever selected a route because it is less hilly?
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Routes / Why did ACA change the Southern Tier
« Last post by John Nettles on December 05, 2025, 12:10:08 am »
I was wondering if anyone knew why ACA rerouted the Southern Tier so that it goes Safford, AZ to Lordsburg, NM, then up to Silver City, NM.  It used to go from Safford along AZ-78 & NM-78 to US-180 then down to Silver City.  I know it has been changed for several years, just wondering. 

The only reasons I can think of are that the updated route is less hilly (Climbing Index of ~48 compared to ~67), has more services, and has a transportation center while being only about a couple dozen miles longer.  However, the traffic is higher overall on the new route and scenery, at least to me, is much less interesting.  I remember reading some journals way back when that some people were nervous about about having to wild camp along the route so maybe that was it?? 

Anyway, does anyone know the reason? 

Tailwinds, John
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Gear Talk / Re: LKLM & Krangear
« Last post by andrewstroud on December 04, 2025, 11:39:19 pm »
Another update after ten years with the bike. Modifications - new wheels that I hand built using Andra 30 rims 36h, Velo Orange Grand Cru rear hub (doesn't require tools to take apart), and SON front dynamo hub; Genetic Zygote handlebars with SQ Labs inner bar ends at the top and Newbaum cotton wrap over high density foam; SQ Labs 602 saddle; Meroca suspension stem; Suntour NCX suspension seatpost; usually Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tour 50mm tires; and oversize jockey wheels.

If I had know how well this frame was going to work out I might have bought extras. This one has been around portions of the world and the US and is still going strong. One of my better investments.
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Chicot State Park brings back bad memories. The Fall 2024 ACA Southern Tier tour group stayed there on Tuesday, November 5, 2024. The mosquitos were so bad that we had to hold our nightly map briefing in the john. It was election night, and you could gauge the developments in the vote tally by the expletives from folks’ tents during the night, as people woke up and checked the news on their phones.  And to add insult to injury, it was pouring rain as we rode out of the park in the morning. Stopping in Bunkie for begneits and coffee lifted everyone’s spirits, though.

Good times…
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Gear Talk / Re: Go Tubeless When Touring?
« Last post by TommyBoy on December 04, 2025, 04:41:15 pm »
Thanks to everyone who provided input into my question about going tubeless and touring. As usual, one size doesn't fit all (situations). I appreciate everyone's perspective. Safe travels!
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Good lord.  Fear monger much?
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Routes / Re: Avoid Chattanooga
« Last post by Pat Lamb on December 02, 2025, 10:50:59 am »
Looks like the chip on somebody's shoulder about a road that's mostly used as an interstate by-pass is long-established.

But let me offer some alternatives.

(1) If the complaint is about Cummings Highway from Lookout Valley/Wauhatchie over the ridge and down towards Nickajack, it's pretty simple to take Wauhatchie Pike and U.S. 11 south towards Birmingham to Wildwood, GA, turn right and take Clouse Hwy down to the river.  Zig and zag to the "new blue bridge" (it's mostly concrete now) and take 41 to Jasper, Kimball, etc.

(2) If the problem is going around Lookout Mountain on 41, go south on St. Elmo Ave. through Flintstone, then take GA 136 over the mountain.  Backtrack to Wildwood or cross Sand Mtn.

Note: if there's a major backup on I-24, go be a tourist in Chattanooga that day.  Try again tomorrow.  The people who drive that stretch of interstate regularly know all the back roads.  Or else try option...

(3) Go across the Tennessee R. to north Chattanooga.  Work your way up to Red Bank and U.S. 127 northbound (Pineville Rd., for example), and take Suck Creek Rd. over Suck Creek Mountain.  Scenic and generally low traffic -- better than 41 in that respect.  That route will take you to TN 28 just outside Whitwell, and you've got huge shoulders south to where it runs into U.S. 64/41.

Fun fact: Where Suck Creek runs into the Tennessee River, there used to be an enormous whirlpool ("suck") that would appear at certain river and creek flows.  That suck would swallow steamboats whole, drowning the passengers and crew, splintering the boats, and some of the cargo would reappear downstream.  Hales Bar Dam was the first dam across the Tennessee, and by flooding that stretch of the river, it made navigation much safer by stopping the whirlpool.  It also generated electricity...  Hales Bar started showing signs of leaking through the porous limestone foundation, and was replaced and flooded by Nickajack Dam in the 1970s.
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Routes / GDMBR - Why Flathead Alternate has changed?
« Last post by BillBekay on November 30, 2025, 07:07:54 am »
Great Divide Mountain Bike Route: Previously, the Flathead Alternate ran over Flathead Pass. Currently, this pass is no longer part of the Flathead Alternate. What is the reason for this? The washouts?
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I used to be able to contact the local police and/or fire department and ask where I could camp for one night.  I offered to come by the police department first to "check in".  Had about a 85%-90% success rate in finding a spot in towns less than 5k souls. 

Now, due to the homeless issue, it is more like 30%-35% since towns worry about setting a precedent and/or liability.  Now, if I have to camp in a non-developed setting I try to find a spot that prevents me from getting "caught" AND being discovered by people with bad intentions.  Luckily, BLM land is still free to camp on but that is mainly out west. 

I actually now have the best help from Librarians in smaller towns.  They seem to know everything and everyone. I have also asked churches but even they seem less inclined to help now due to precedence and liability. 

Things seem to be easier 30 years ago but maybe I am just getting old and grumpy  ;D   

Tailwinds, John
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The homeless population has exploded into full view in this country with the predictable NIMBY attitudes from virtually everyone. What distinguishes you from a homeless person? That's probably why evading police scrutiny has to be prioritized when "free camping". (and don't take this as a condemnation of homeless people who are mostly veterans or mentally challenged or frug addicted or all three)

Does this mean you will be using hotels on your ST this winter???
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