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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by Joey_Bai on May 19, 2022, 09:30:01 pm »
The bike is getting heavier and heavier... Will post my packing list soon for feedback.
:D
The weight only matters if you're on a schedule.... That said, there are a lot of mechanical and esthetic advantages to a minimal load.

Unfortunately, if you leave it up to 100 people to tell you what they consider to be the most essential item they bring, you'll likely get 110 absolutely essential items.

As you read through the comments on your list, remember to (a) don't take offense and (b) heed only those recommendations that truly strike a chord for you.

Matthew Lee liked to point out that on 2 week races, he only took a few items in addition to his everyday carry of tools and parts. It's surprising how little it takes to sleep, eat, and keep moving.

For comparison, I ran into a fellow time-trialing the Great Divide Mountan Bike Route on a rig that weighed ~35 pounds fully loaded including mud and water. On the other hand I had a great time taking 4 times longer to complete the trip on a bike and racks that had a mass of 34 pounds and went ~80 pounds fully loaded..., including spare pedals, an electric shaver and computer, but on the other hand, without a stove.

That make sense! I'm not in rush. I plan to use 3 month to finish the trip. If I bike 50 miles/day on average I can finish in 78 days, with 12 rest days. I will bring cameras and a laptop with me to do some video editing along the way so it's probably gonna be a heavy load.

I'm mostly unsure about clothing. Do these clothes make sense for northern tier (East to West) route June - September?

Two cycling shirts
A pair of cycling shorts
A pair of cycling pants

A lightweight dawn jacket (Uniqlo Ultra Light Down Parka)
A thin jacket (Patagonia R1 techface jacket)
A rain jacket (Rei Co-op Men's Junction Cycling Rain Jacket)
An ultra thin jacket
A short sleeve tshirt
A long sleeve tshirt

A pair of thin sweat pants
A pair of thick sweat pants
A pair of jeans
A pair of shorts

Two low neck socks
Two long neck socks
Two pairs of underwear
A pair of cycling shoes
A pair of sandals
A baseball hat
A gaiter
A pair of UV protection sleeves

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by Joey_Bai on May 19, 2022, 09:10:03 pm »
I'm sorry I won't be able to join you for a stretch of your ride.  We just adopted a new doggie.  Wife wouldn't be pleased if I were to take off for a week!

Will you be posting a journal someplace?  CrazyGuyOnABike?

I will post pictures and journals on facebook (Joey Bai) and instagram (joeybai7)!
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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by jamawani on May 19, 2022, 08:50:20 pm »
Don't skimp on the rain gear.
Western Washington - the west slope of the Cascades -
has had 200% of normal rainfall in the past 3 months.
And western Washington gets lots of rain/snow from mid-Feb to mid-May.
We're talking 30-40 inches of rain in 90 days.

The water faucet may turn off suddenly, but don't count on it.
Your initial few days are likely to be very soggy.
Don't let the cold/damp conditions spoil your start.
Once you get over Washington Pass, it's dries out quickly.

PS - I hope you are thinking of taking the ferry out to the San Juan Islands.
Even staying two nights at the county park in Anacortes and doing a day cruise on the ferry
out to one of the islands and back gives you a super start to the tour.

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by ray b on May 19, 2022, 07:40:49 pm »
The bike is getting heavier and heavier... Will post my packing list soon for feedback.
:D
The weight only matters if you're on a schedule.... That said, there are a lot of mechanical and esthetic advantages to a minimal load.

Unfortunately, if you leave it up to 100 people to tell you what they consider to be the most essential item they bring, you'll likely get 110 absolutely essential items.

As you read through the comments on your list, remember to (a) don't take offense and (b) heed only those recommendations that truly strike a chord for you.

Matthew Lee liked to point out that on 2 week races, he only took a few items in addition to his everyday carry of tools and parts. It's surprising how little it takes to sleep, eat, and keep moving.

For comparison, I ran into a fellow time-trialing the Great Divide Mountan Bike Route on a rig that weighed ~35 pounds fully loaded including mud and water. On the other hand I had a great time taking 4 times longer to complete the trip on a bike and racks that had a mass of 34 pounds and went ~80 pounds fully loaded..., including spare pedals, an electric shaver and computer, but on the other hand, without a stove.
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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by jwrushman on May 19, 2022, 02:19:07 pm »
I'm sorry I won't be able to join you for a stretch of your ride.  We just adopted a new doggie.  Wife wouldn't be pleased if I were to take off for a week!

Will you be posting a journal someplace?  CrazyGuyOnABike?

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier East to West June - August 2022
« Last post by Joey_Bai on May 19, 2022, 02:02:52 pm »
Trip starts in two weeks! So excited! Just bought the Northern Tier phone map. I'm bit worried about over packing. The bike is getting heavier and heavier... Will post my packing list soon for feedback.
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Routes / Re: Feasibility of riding Atlantic Coast in November/alternate routes
« Last post by Barak10 on May 19, 2022, 01:17:37 pm »
I never said Burlington is in southern Vermont.
I did. My mistake
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Routes / Re: Feasibility of riding Atlantic Coast in November/alternate routes
« Last post by Barak10 on May 19, 2022, 01:17:07 pm »
When did they move Burlington to southern VT?  When I was there again last September it was still about 40 miles from the Canadian border.  Or did you mean Brattleboro?   ;D

I have ridden south from either Brattleboro, or Burlington through Brattleboro, to join ACA's Atlantic Coast Route during trips home to Philly.  Twice in N. Canaan, CT and once in Millerton, NY.  As noted, campgrounds start shutting down relatively early.  For example, Lake Bomoseen S.P. near Fair Haven, VT, shuts down after Labor Day Weekend.  Nearby Half Moon Pond S.P. closes mid-October.  During my trip starting last September, the place in the southern Berkshires I camped at was closing the following weekend.  ("Winter comes early around here." the owner remarked.) Lone Oak, a few miles east of N. Canaan, CT, closes mid-October.  The Rudd Pond camping area of Taconic State Park, a bit off route from Millerton, NY, closes after Labor Day Weekend.  You will pretty much find the same as you get into NJ and PA, at least with respect to private campgrounds.  Worthington State Forest in NJ stays open year 'round, but they shut off the water at some point.  And I don't think I would want to risk sub-freezing temperatures at the time you're talking.  I have ridden that area in mid-October when nights have been around freezing.  Dogwood Haven, just off route in Upper Black Eddy, PA, closes at the end of October.

Luckily for you, whether you are in Burlington or Brattleboro, you can take your bike on Amtrak's Vermonter as far south as D.C.  No boxing of the bike required.  You just need to reserve one of the 3 bike spaces.  At the time of year you are looking at, that probably will not be a problem.
Thank you very much. My mistake regarding Burlington.
Do you think riding from D.C. south at that time of year should be feasible?
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Routes / Re: Feasibility of riding Atlantic Coast in November/alternate routes
« Last post by Barak10 on May 19, 2022, 01:16:10 pm »
Also, many campgrounds in the northeast close after Labor Day, though some may be open through leaf peeping season. You'd have to call/confirm beforehand.
Thank you very much
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Routes / Re: Feasibility of riding Atlantic Coast in November/alternate routes
« Last post by Barak10 on May 19, 2022, 01:15:51 pm »
One thing to keep in mind at that time of the year is daylight.
Short days can put pressure on you to reach destinations and, if camping, there may be fewer options than usual.
Night riding requires good lighting. It can be wonderful on quiet, well surfaced roads but a nightmare on busy, poor surfaces.
Good luck!

Thank you very much
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