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Unfortunately, I only have the summary map going back to 2014 (see attachment) .  I probably have the maps from when I rode it back in '87.  If you are truly desperate for them and no one else can get them, I can probably rummage in some boxes and find them. 

However, I am somewhat confident the original route went from Minot to Fargo without going to Grand Forks.  Of course, that was one of the few sections I was off route at that section so my memory may not be accurate. 

I wasn't sure where you want to connect to the old (or current) Northern Tier.  Regardless, here are the reverse of some routes I did about a decade ago.  I updated the Winnipeg to Pembina route as Winnipeg as improved their cycling infrastructure. 

Here are the routes: 

PNDW-S: (Winnipeg to Pembina).
GFPN-S: (Pembina to Grand Forks).
FGFN-S:  (Grand Forks to Fargo).

If you are wanting to do a diagonal from Pembina to say Bemidji, you can check out Minneasota's Bike Map (use the pdf as it is easier to read):  . 

Also, a few years ago during the pandemic, I rode what I call the Heartland Express Route which I created about 8 or 9 years ago.  While the entire route is not finished, maybe these may help you too if you take the Northern Tier to LaCrosse, WI.  The ride across Wisconsin is primarily on rail trails (some unpaved), but is a very nice route.  . 

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you a wonderful tour! 
Tailwinds, John
My wife and I are contemplating a tandem tour from Winnipeg, Manitoba to Ann Arbor, Michigan. The idea is to go south out of Winnipeg to pick up the old, pre-Bakken oil field Northern Tier route, continuing on to where it joins the current version of the route (and thence jumping off to the North Lakes). The section of the old NT would be well east of the truck and other heavy traffic that led the NT to be re-routed southerly, so I'm thinking it should still be good to ride. Any advice on that idea, and is there any source for the old route's maps? Thanks.
General Discussion / Re: Average Weight Loss/Gain on Cross Country Tour
« Last post by DannyRich on June 12, 2024, 05:32:44 pm »
When it comes to weight changes during a cross-country tour, it really varies from person to person. Factors like distance traveled, terrain, diet, and overall fitness level all play a role. From personal experience, I've seen friends lose weight due to the intense cardio and physical demands, while others have gained muscle from the constant biking or hiking. It's a unique journey for everyone. And hey, speaking of fitness journeys, I've heard some folks have found supplements helpful, like those they've found by searching for steroids for sale. Just remember to prioritize safety and consult a professional if you're considering anything new.
General Discussion / World's Tallest Bicycle
« Last post by John Nettles on June 12, 2024, 02:26:19 pm »

A WYDOT press release on Tuesday afternoon stated the detour could be completed in two weeks.

“WYDOT continues to work closely with the U.S. Forest Service and other agencies to secure the area and investigate long-term reconstruction options. Currently, WYDOT geologists and engineers are confident they can build a safe, temporary detour around the slide area using local fill material and paving two temporary lanes,” the press release stated.

Westby praised the work of the geologists, engineers and construction crews as they work round-the-clock at both sites, as well as the cooperation of local, state and federal officials.


Please do not attempt to "go around" as some have suggested.
Construction is going on 24/7 and there is a $750 fine.
I have read that in other parts of Mexico, and in parts of South America, kidnapping and holding for ransom or something of a cottage industry. They say it used to happen all the time. When people needed money they would go out and find some rich executive from a foreign country. They were kidnap him and hold him for ransom. That was how they made money.
GPS & Digital Data Discussion / GDMBR .GPX file size
« Last post by on June 11, 2024, 05:48:56 pm »
I've loaded all the GDMBR .gpx on my Garmin Edge 1030 Plus, and it doesn't appear there are any issues with file size regarding the Edge's memory.  Does anyone know if there will be lag-time issues if I use the files as-is (since each file covers hundreds of miles).  Should I go to the effort of breaking up the files into smaller chunks, or should the files be fine as-is?
Classifieds / Re: Companions Wanted Section
« Last post by JoeFoxJr on June 11, 2024, 02:56:51 pm »
GDMBR 2024: Looking for riding partner(s) for the great divide this summer, especially through grizzly territory.  I will be departing Banff roughly July 26th or 27th, 2024.  I am 35 years old, in fairly good shape but not a competitive cyclist by any means.  I expect I will ride between 60 and 90 miles most days, with some longer and some shorter.  I will mostly be camping out, with the odd night in a hotel when I need a boost.  If interested, feel free to reply here or reach out via email (  Cheers!
General Discussion / Re: Starting my first ever bicycling tour.
« Last post by John Nettles on June 11, 2024, 11:47:47 am »
Have you consider doing a journal over on CGOAB or CycleBlaze?  They would be great spots for your interesting rides.  Tailwinds, John
WDOT link - scroll down to Big Fill slide photos June 10 for drone shots.  They are working on a temp detour.


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