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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast question - WA area - advice hugely appreciated
« Last post by John Nelson on October 08, 2017, 11:07:21 pm »
Can I safely assume that one can camp in all State parks?
No. Check first.
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Gear Talk / Re: Advice for Great Divide bike set up
« Last post by ghh@me.com on October 08, 2017, 08:12:17 pm »
Thanks for the advice so far. 

Regarding the greater jumps in 1X gearing - understood and appreciate and probably still more interested in the reliability of 1X. 

And I guess I should have said a bit about me - Im 54 years old.  I rode the TransAm route last summer with a super light road bike with RV support in 7 weeks.  Average daily distance toward the end of the ride was about 115-125 miles per day. 

Im planning on doing this ride with a combination of lightweight bikepacking combined with meeting my better half at convenient locations along the way.


Lastly - I think the Eagle 12 cog cassettes are the way to go - (10 to 50) and then fine tune it with chainring choice.  Since I prefer drop bars, I d probably have to mount the eagle shifter near the stem on the top of the bars and use regular (non shifter) brake levers - eh?
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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast question - WA area - advice hugely appreciated
« Last post by cgarch on October 08, 2017, 07:03:48 pm »
I think the July Creek campground is closed. It was in 2009 and checking the Olympic Park web page now, it does not list July Creek as a camp site - just a picnic spot. When faced with that we headed to Falls Creek FS camp on the other side of the lake. With a short ride into town, there were public showers available. It turned out to be a better solution. Continuing from Lake Quinalt we headed down 101 with no problems but I took a side road just to be off of 101, E. Hoquiam Rd into Hoquiam and back on the route. Worked for us.

If I do this in the future, I intend to go out to the coast on Moclips Hwy and spend some time at the coast south of there before heading into Hoquiam/Aberdeen

We also took 105 out to the coast at Westport. Highly recommended. Also, there's an excellent seafood store, Brady's, just across the bridge before you get into Westport. We drove the 101 from Abeerdeen to Raymond in 2015 and I would not recommend it.

Bush Pioneer park at Bay Center is pretty good with showers and shelter in case it's raining. Feel free to look at our journal on CGOAB for more on this.

Craig
Santa Rosa, CA
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/TWS
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Majorly wrong - - majorly Big Brother.
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Gear Talk / Re: Advice for Great Divide bike set up
« Last post by Iowagriz on October 08, 2017, 04:07:51 pm »
I rode 6 days from Banff to Lincoln this past late June.  29er, hardtail, 2.3 tires and rigid fork.  1x10 gearing, 32T upfront, 11/36 rear. Walked a fair amount, but that was also the plan to keep moving for 12hrs a day. This was all in prep to do the entire route at some point in the future.  Now I'll upgrade to 11speed or 12/Eagle.  Probably keep the 32 up front, but gain a lower gear in the rear.  Add some additional fitness and I'll be fine.

But, everyone is different.  FWIW - I'm 52, former cat 1 MTB racer, don't mind mashing gears if needed for hills, but prefer to spin as much as possible.  Total gear weight with food and water was probably close to 60lbs.

It is a great route, enjoy the trip.
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Gear Talk / Re: Advice for Great Divide bike set up
« Last post by RussSeaton on October 08, 2017, 02:49:44 pm »
This is a purely mathematical response.  Assume 10 speed.  Assume 700C wheels.  Just for fun.  I suppose you could go 11 speed too.  And 26 inch wheels too.  But 10 speed and 700C.  11-36 cassette.  Putting the gears into a gear chart with a 34 tooth single chainring, I get about 22 mph top speed with 34x11 gearing and 90 rpm, 83 gear inches.  And I get about 7 mph with low gear of 34x36 and 90 rpm, 25 gear inches.  All the gearing jumps are about 5-6-7 gear inches apart.  Not bad.  Only problem is the high is not too high, not really much of a problem.  And the other problem is the low is not too low really.  25 gear inches isn't anything to brag about for a low gear.  You could run a 32 ring and get a high of 78 and a low of 24 gear inches, 21 and 6.4 mph.  But the low really isn't a lot better and the high is definitely worse.

The problem with running a single chainring is the gearing is compromised.  Either you lose high gears, or lose low gears, or lose the nice progression between gears.  You cannot have all three with a single ring and 10 or 11 or even 12 cogs on back.  SRAM is making a 12 cog cassette now.  The SRAM 12 speed cassette is 10-50.  The SRAM 11 speed cassette is 10-42.  I suppose with a 32 ring and 10-42 cassette, you could get a range of 86 to 20.6 gear inches.  23 to 5.5 mph at 90 rpm.  Good low gearing.  But not a great choice of middle or high gearing and big jumps between gears.  You got to compromise with a single chainring.  With a triple crankset, or even a double crank, you can have nice high gears, nice low gears, AND nice jumps between gears.  You can have it all with a double or triple crank, you can't with a single ring.  You give up good gearing range or progression for the benefit of maintenance, reliability, ease of shifting.
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Cycling with a passport? That sounds lame.

Have things changed at Fort Hunter Ligget?  I’ve cycled through the fort on Jolon Rd/N-F Rd many times and have never seen the security gate manned. I don’t go onto the central base proper, however, just pass through.

The last time I was there was in June, 2017 and many times before that.
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Gear Talk / Advice for Great Divide bike set up
« Last post by ghh@me.com on October 08, 2017, 01:10:44 pm »
Hi Everyone

Im building up a bike to do an awesome Canada to Mexico trip along the Great Divide route.  Im leaning toward a 1X setup for durability and ease of maintenance en route. 

Id like your advice on set up

Given that the  route will be 80% dirt roads/10% singletrack/10% paved roads - Im leaning towards drop bars and mechanical disk brakes (again due to ease of maintence).

I prefer SRAM shifters on my current road bike, but I am not completely dead set on them.  I am a spinner, not a masher, so I would like to set the bike up with plenty of low end gearing and would be happy to spin out above 25 mph


So - if you could start from scratch - what would you suggest? 

Thanks

Greg
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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast question - WA area - advice hugely appreciated
« Last post by Inge on October 08, 2017, 02:56:32 am »
Thanks again guys for the exctensive and very useful input.

Jamawani - thanks for the mileage indicators and the various links. Super! So far I have planned from July Creek Campsite (Quinalt Lake) to Twin Harbors - which for me makes it a very long stretch (100km). And am contemplating to go either via BIAS 26 or a bit further down Kilpatrick Road to State Route 109 via Copalis beach, Ocean City and camp at Ocean City State Park (about 60Km/ 38 miles). And then the next day Ocean City State Park - Twin Harbors State Park (40 miles). This way I could indeed as you suggested detour to Westport and do the dune trail. From Twin State I either will go to the KOA or Bush State Park + stay  for an extra day to do some birdwatching. From Bush State to cape dissapointment. Looks like my thoughts kinda followed yours even though I did not know that the other day when thinking about it  :D.
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Make sure to visit the Lewis & Clark Center at Cape Disappointment - then go for a swim in Deadman's Cove.
will do so.

KKtice - thanks your thoughts on Astoria bridge. I think I must have ridden it 25 years ago as well but do not really remember. So I think I will keep Astoria bridge in my plans. One does not get to cross such a long bridge every day.

John N - Good to hear that might I deviate to the Hood Canal I will not have any camping problems. Can I safely assume that one can camp in all State parks?
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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast question - WA area - advice hugely appreciated
« Last post by John Nelson on October 08, 2017, 01:11:38 am »
What was the camp possibility like along Hood Canal and Columbia River?
Because the Hood Canal is a recreation area, there are lots of campgrounds, most with hiker/biker spaces: Kitsap Memorial State Park has hiker/biker spots, as does Illahee State Park and Bellfair State Park. Twanoh State Park has walk-in sites. That's all in the space of 40 miles, which is about the length of the Hood Canal. I camped at Bellfair State Park. At $12, Washington State Park hiker/biker spaces are generally more expensive than Oregon State Parks (usually $6) and California State Parks ($5 to $10). All of them have showers, most of which require tokens, which are available for 50 cents.
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