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Offline jmsbrlw

Hello newb here looking for advice
« on: April 07, 2015, 10:29:41 pm »
I'm planning my first tour this summer starting and finishing in Utah.
I intend my route to be the west coast heading south to north. I am planning on camping most of the way.
I'm wondering what has the cost for a journey like this come out to for anyone and how long will it take

Offline Patco

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 11:58:51 pm »
More information on your route will help with your questions. The west coast is a rather broad term and, of course, there is the route to and from Utah. One suggestion I am able to offer is, if indeed west coast is the route, to consider north to south. There are a number of reasons for this suggestion, with one being the pacific coast route tends to have much better shoulders when travelling north to south.

Offline staehpj1

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 07:01:53 am »
One suggestion I am able to offer is, if indeed west coast is the route, to consider north to south. There are a number of reasons for this suggestion, with one being the pacific coast route tends to have much better shoulders when travelling north to south.
Also the winds are generally more favorable on the coast going N-S, and the winds can really kick up on the coast.  I would strongly suggest getting to the northern end of the coast via an inland route and then riding South on the PCH. 

jmsbrlw, you really don't give us enough info to estimate your time needed.  The length of the route you mention could vary pretty widely and we know nothing about your personal pace.  A lot of folks fall into the 50-60 miles per day range, but 20 miles per day above or below that isn't that unusual.

Costs can vary widely depending on your choices.  I find that camping most of the way I manage on $15-20 per day depending where I am and how frugal I am.  I know of folks who get by on half that and others who spend 4-5 times as much.

On much of the inland portion of the route, I'd camp for free in plain sight most of the time and on the coast there are cheap hiker biker sites in Oregon and California.  So the actual camping part can be pretty cheap.  Camping in small town parks or picnic areas and other impromptu sites when possible and using hiker bikers sites when I can, I have averaged less than $5 per day for camping on longish tours in the West or across the US.  On the other hand campgrounds can cost $20-30 in some places if you use them.

Food and drink is tough to call because it will depend on your choices.  Both sport drinks and alcoholic beverages can raise costs a lot.  Food will vary widely depending on whether you are eating ramen noodles and oatmeal or steaks in restaurants.  I find that I can eat and drink on $15 pretty easily while eating some diner meals, cooking at least one meal a day, and getting stuff like $5 footlongs at Subway when available.


Offline jmsbrlw

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 02:12:35 am »
my route that I am after is from salt lake to Seattle then from Seattle to San diago after San diego back to salt lake I was thinking the south to north first to get the hottest part of the ride done first. are the winds pretty consistent? and my pace per day currently is 40 miles and that is just in the commute to and from work my goal is to do 100 per day
 

Offline staehpj1

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 08:19:49 am »
Just me, but I would consider either going later in the season when it will be cooler for that last leg or not doing it as a loop if the heat will be too bad.  If timing the trip to finish in the Fall wasn't an option I would probably fly or take the train from San Francisco or San Diego back to SLC.  I really hate hot weather though.

Abandoning the loop requirement could maybe open up some other possibilities.  Something to consider anyway.

On the 100 mile per day goal...  Most of the folks I met who planned to average 100 mpd wound up doing a good bit less; most of them more like 80 mpd.  Ideally I'd suggest allowing enough time for a slower pace and taking it as it comes pace wise.  Alternately being flexible on the end point works too.  That way you can do 100 mpd if you want but you have plenty of flexibility built in to the plan for a slower pace if that winds up making sense.  A rigid schedule can really suck a lot of the joy out of a tour.

What ever you decide, have a great trip.  It sounds like you will be travelling through some beautiful country.

Offline mucknort

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 10:02:31 am »
I find 40-80 mile days are a lot more fun as far as being able to check stuff out along the way, especially doing an incredibly scenic route like the Pacific coast.

Reasons for doing coast N to S:
-yes, winds are very consistent N to S
-wider/better shoulder on Southbound side
-you get the BEST views of the ocean and cliffs and shore and wildlife!
-90% of bike tourists go N to S, it is fun to meet up with folks and keep bumping into them/camp with them as you tour.

Many hiker/biker campgrounds at State Parks along the coast that charge only $5-12 night.

Offline walks.in2.trees

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2015, 08:40:41 pm »
Have to agree about less miles  for a goal. My commute to my office is similar to yours but due to the nature of my job, there are times when I've had to go 60 or 80 miles in a day and  there's a huge difference when you're only used to 50 As a one-off I felt tired but good, but I know I couldn't do it 2 in a row,  not the first week anyway. So I'd plan the trip maximum length for what you're used to,  and a minimum length for your goal then revise the plan as you get conditioned along the way.  Mostly because for planning purposes  you don't want to get caught short for time, food, or money.  The other thing to keep in mind is that your pacing  will be much slower over a full day as opposed to stopping for 8 hours then doing  the other half of your commute home. In condition, I average about 10 mph over 4 hours,  whereas I'll average 14 over one hour and 13  for  two hours ... I'm sure you see the trend whatever you yourself average...

Offline jmsbrlw

Re: Hello newb here looking for advice
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 12:07:36 pm »
thank you guys and the best part about this is my work is temp anyways I leave next week and I have no work for this week so I'll be spending the week riding all day long everyday I have plenty of mountains in salt lake to prepare for the Oregon area and any other mounatin that will be in my path