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Biketouringhobo

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What is the Best Bike Light for Touring? USB or 3 AAA Battery?
in headlights and Taillights to be Seen at Anytime in Fog, Rain etc.
I am using 2 Types USB and 3 AAA Battery on my Surly LHT
on my Jandd Extreme Front Rack with Pual light mount

#1 3 AAA Princeton Tac Push Bike Light 100Lumen
#2 USB Cygolite Expilion USB 720Lumen and Spare Battery for
Cygolite Expilion
#3 3 AAA Princeton Tac EOS Bike Light 105Lumen on Helmet
#4 3 AAA Niterider Taillight 10lumen

I was thinking getting a 2nd Cygolite Expilion USB 720Lumen
and Cygolite Hotshot 80 USB Taillight 80lumen or
Niterider Solas USB 150lumen Taillight

(Note) USB takes 5hrs to charge up! 10hrs for 2

Tim
« Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 01:34:58 pm by Biketouringhobo »

Offline John Nelson

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 04:17:54 pm »
AAA are inexpensive and readily available. I don't see any reason to use rechargeable unless you have a high-power light.

Offline RussSeaton

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 08:59:56 pm »
I have the Princeton Tec EOS helmet light.  Stays there year round.  Always available.  It runs for several hours on low.  Low is enough to ride by.  Not fast or great.  But its enough.  And I use three rear blinky lights with 2 AA or AAA lights.  Usually only use two of them.   Why the great interest in front lights on a touring bike?  I would think you would plan to ride during the daylight.  For rain and early starts, the EOS is enough to be seen.  Why the desire for 3 or 4 different front lights?  Once you have enough front light to see and be seen, more does you no good.  Are you planning on touring through the night?  Bit hard to see much that way.

My usual lights use AA or AAA batteries.  They seem to last long enough.  And batteries are easy to get.

Biketouringhobo

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Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 11:38:07 am »
I have the Princeton Tec EOS helmet light.  Stays there year round.  Always available.  It runs for several hours on low.  Low is enough to ride by.  Not fast or great.  But its enough.  And I use three rear blinky lights with 2 AA or AAA lights.  Usually only use two of them.   Why the great interest in front lights on a touring bike?  I would think you would plan to ride during the daylight.  For rain and early starts, the EOS is enough to be seen.  Why the desire for 3 or 4 different front lights?  Once you have enough front light to see and be seen, more does you no good.  Are you planning on touring through the night?  Bit hard to see much that way.

My usual lights use AA or AAA batteries.  They seem to last long enough.  And batteries are easy to get.

you:Why the desire for 3 or 4 different front lights? I like to be seen in San Diego County and Southern California doing Stealth Bike Camping and I am Homeless by Choice since 11-2008 on Homeless Survival on SSI and SSDI and I go to Free Meal
Centers in San Diego County that start at 5:30pm done at 6:15pm and I start riding to my Stealth Bike Camping spot at 6:30pm and I get to my Stealth Camping Spot at 7:30pm it is dark out and I like to see the road and to be Seen by Cars, Vans, Trucks

#1 3 AAA Princeton Tac Push Bike Light 100Lumen for Bike Touring back up light!
#2 USB Cygolite Expilion USB 720Lumen and Spare Battery for
Cygolite Expilion my main bike light for Stealth Bike Camping and Bike Touring trips
#3 3 AAA Princeton Tac EOS Bike Light 105Lumen on Helmet back up going to
Cygolite Metro 550 USB bike light for Helmet use
#4 3 AAA Niterider Taillight 10lumen for back up for bike touring going to
Niterider Solas 150 lumen USB

Offline RussSeaton

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 02:09:16 pm »
Your thread title said "...for Touring?"  You are not touring.  You are commuting.  Riding around town.  Etc.  There is a big difference between "Touring" and riding around town.  Different bikes, different gear, maybe different clothes too.  If someone asked which panniers to buy for riding around the world and which panniers to buy for going to the grocery store, I might give slightly different answers.  And if someone asked which bike to buy for touring around the world and which bike to buy for commuting to an eating place in the evening, I'd likely give a different answer.  My original comments about needing six different lights on a touring bike still apply.  You don't need them.  Touring is a daylight activity.

Please change the title of your thread to "3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for COMMUTING?"

Biketouringhobo

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Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 03:09:12 pm »
Your thread title said "...for Touring?"  You are not touring.  You are commuting.  Riding around town.  Etc.  There is a big difference between "Touring" and riding around town.  Different bikes, different gear, maybe different clothes too.  If someone asked which panniers to buy for riding around the world and which panniers to buy for going to the grocery store, I might give slightly different answers.  And if someone asked which bike to buy for touring around the world and which bike to buy for commuting to an eating place in the evening, I'd likely give a different answer.  My original comments about needing six different lights on a touring bike still apply.  You don't need them.  Touring is a daylight activity.

Please change the title of your thread to "3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for COMMUTING?"
I bloody will be BIKE TOURING next SUMMER! in the POCONO MTNS in PA

Offline paddleboy17

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 01:29:22 pm »
Time out boys...

I think being able to replace AA or AAA batteries at any gas station is a useful thing.    Chargers take space, and finding opportunities to charge is a pain.  Plus what happens if you need your lights and you guessed wrong on your charge level.  You cannot always head to the nearest McDonalds to hang out in their lobby while you wait for your light's batteries to recharge.  Having your phone go dead is one thing.  Being able to run the lights in blink mode in inclement weather or light the way if you are running late is pretty important.
Danno

Offline walks.in2.trees

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2016, 05:57:37 pm »
Your thread title said "...for Touring?"  You are not touring.  You are commuting.  Riding around town.  Etc.  There is a big difference between "Touring" and riding around town.  Different bikes, different gear, maybe different clothes too.  If someone asked which panniers to buy for riding around the world and which panniers to buy for going to the grocery store, I might give slightly different answers.  And if someone asked which bike to buy for touring around the world and which bike to buy for commuting to an eating place in the evening, I'd likely give a different answer.  My original comments about needing six different lights on a touring bike still apply.  You don't need them.  Touring is a daylight activity.

Please change the title of your thread to "3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for COMMUTING?"
Touring, vs commuting could make a difference if the usb light has a short battery life.

However, the Petzel light I'm using last's a good long time on a single charge. If you're touring, it'll last waaaaay longer than it would commuting because you wouldn't be riding at night so often, though you might use it for other tasks such as setting up camp. I think it's about 6-8hrs of use per charge depending on how aggressively you use it. I use mine in auto-brightness mode, so it brightens and dims based on lighting conditions... Be aware that it will dim for on-coming headlights. Avoid this by looking slightly towards the road shoulder. However I usually I don't need it at full brightness for riding in the city. I mostly only keep it on to warn drivers entering from the side streets of my presence, since their headlights don't pick up my reflective gear until I'm almost in front of them (and even with me consciously shining the light at the driver, I've still had close calls). I don't need it to see the road with streetlights everywhere, or even in rural areas when the moon is bright, but I also have good night vision.

So this brings us to power supply while traveling.
For commuting, charge it while at work or at home between uses just like your other devices, and never worry.
When traveling longer distances, remember that many places now have free wifi... typically power outlets are found in abundance in these venues, sometimes even USB ports, like most of the new Dunkin Donuts and McDonalds. Order a coffee and choose a seat by an outlet. With careful usage you can keep it charged this way.

Because there are places you can't count on that though, and some long stretches of country  where there's nothing and no one, another option is GoalZero... Their Venture30 USB battery is waterproof and will charge both my Petzel and my Bluetooth headset using less than a fifth of its capacity. For reference the Venture30 will charge my Samsung Galaxy 2s Tablet to about ¾, but my Galaxy 2 smartphone used to get 1⅔

The Venture30 itself takes about 6 hours to charge fully when plugged into an outlet however, and much longer using the solar panels, but, with the solar panels in full sun you can charge the light and the battery simultaneously while you ride. They do have larger solar panel options, and a package that includes the Venture30, or you can buy the Venture30 on its own.

I bought 2 sets of panels, since they can be linked together, and I clip them together and bungee them over my rack trunk, so I end up with one facing left and one facing right to increase the odds that one would be exposed to the sun as I ride, no matter which direction I'm riding. And yes they do add some weight, and no they aren't cheap.
For commuting, the panels are worthless, unless you consider the conversations they attract as having some value. In that case they do make good conversation starters, in addition to the usual, "how far you going?"
For the reasons above, they're best for long multi-day rides as long as you don't mind the weight. Every bit you charge as you go stretches your time between needing to plug into a wall.

Note too that Winter daylight hours in the northern latitudes are not long enough for effective solar charging, but in an emergency, it can provide enough charge to get a quick message out via SMS on a cellphone or tablet right away, or if you wait longer to charge more, you can use the GPS or internet for a while.

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Offline Ty0604

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2016, 02:25:59 am »
What is the Best Bike Light for Touring? USB or 3 AAA Battery?
in headlights and Taillights to be Seen at Anytime in Fog, Rain etc.
I am using 2 Types USB and 3 AAA Battery on my Surly LHT
on my Jandd Extreme Front Rack with Pual light mount

#1 3 AAA Princeton Tac Push Bike Light 100Lumen
#2 USB Cygolite Expilion USB 720Lumen and Spare Battery for
Cygolite Expilion
#3 3 AAA Princeton Tac EOS Bike Light 105Lumen on Helmet
#4 3 AAA Niterider Taillight 10lumen

I was thinking getting a 2nd Cygolite Expilion USB 720Lumen
and Cygolite Hotshot 80 USB Taillight 80lumen or
Niterider Solas USB 150lumen Taillight

(Note) USB takes 5hrs to charge up! 10hrs for 2

Tim

3 AAA batteries. I use mine 6-8 hours a day and only have to change the batteries once during a 3 month long tour. Mine uses 2 AAA batteries. Pick up the 2-pack of Duracell at the Dollar Store. USB lights are something extra to charge and they don't last very long IMO.
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Offline driftlessregion

Re: 3 AAA Battery Bike Lights Vs USB Battery Bike Light for Touring?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2016, 02:23:27 pm »
Toured for two weeks recently camping in parks. Every time we stopped at a diner for breakfast and pie we charged our lights. Left them overnight in some campground rest rooms charging. Check the owner's manuals for run times; they vary widely and you'll want the mode that lasts the longest.