Rear Kickstand

[dayjack119]

I use a two kickstand system after much trial and error.  The rear stands normally deemed as 'heavy duty' are not very strong.  After a couple snapped on me, I contacted the companies involved and it was explained they were not made for the weight of a loaded bicycle.  So does anyone know of a rear kickstand that will take the beating of a cross country loaded ride?

[adventurepdx]

Which rear kickstand have you been using?

The one I've used is the rear triangle version made by Greenfield. Never used it on a tour, but have used it for day-to-day commuting, and I have had loads on it.

[etsisk]

I don't use a kickstand. I have one of those rubber coated wire wraps that I use to lock my front brake and I just lean the bike against whatever. With the brake lever activated and locked, the bike doesn't move. At all.

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[etsisk]

And I've heard of too many frames being broken by kickstands.

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[dayjack119]

Which rear kickstand have you been using?

The one I've used is the rear triangle version made by Greenfield. Never used it on a tour, but have used it for day-to-day commuting, and I have had loads on it.

That is what I have now, and one of the companies that told me they were not built for heavy weight.  I have been babying it.

[adventurepdx]

That is what I have now, and one of the companies that told me they were not built for heavy weight.  I have been babying it.

When you say "one of the companies", did you talk with Greenfield themselves?

Googling "heavy duty rear kickstand", I came across this one made by ESGE/Pletscher. It's being sold by a specific bike touring website, so I am guessing it'll be good for loaded touring.
http://www.cyclocamping.com/Kickstands/pletscher_esge_multi_zoom_rear_adjustable_kickstand/52900_1-37.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQiAxeTFBRCGmIq_7rGt_r8BEiQANdPqUrOwHn0ArLCeWuMZFEH2kbWEazJImyBnzGB0di4kL34aAuqy8P8HAQ

[adventurepdx]

And I've heard of too many frames being broken by kickstands.

I haven't heard about frames being broken by kickstands, but it is common that a bottom-bracket mounted (i.e. traditional mount) kickstand can crush stays because people overtighten them. Of course, if the bike has a kickstand plate it isn't as much of an issue.

But as far as I know, there shouldn't be a "frame break" issue with a rear kickstand that mounts to the rear triangle.

[etsisk]

Not a tech head so any tube that is part of the frame is the frame, but yeah, chain stays

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[adventurepdx]

Not a tech head so any tube that is part of the frame is the frame, but yeah, chain stays

I'm not disagreeing that the stays aren't part of the frame. I'm just not inclined to believe the idea that if the stays are crushed, the frame is automatically broken. I've owned bikes with crushed chainstays for years and they didn't fail. Of course, YMMV. And one shouldn't overtighten the kickstand.

[etsisk]

But also I've heard about kickstand plates that weren't up to the task of supporting a fully loaded touring bike

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[etsisk]

Not a tech head so any tube that is part of the frame is the frame, but yeah, chain stays

I'm not disagreeing that the stays aren't part of the frame. I'm just not inclined to believe the idea that if the stays are crushed, the frame is automatically broken. I've owned bikes with crushed chainstays for years and they didn't fail. Of course, YMMV. And one shouldn't overtighten the kickstand.

Sure I get that, but I'm not up for loading a bike like we do and taking off with any part of my frame crushed! I reckon I'm just funny like that!

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[adventurepdx]

But also I've heard about kickstand plates that weren't up to the task of supporting a fully loaded touring bike

That area is just hard for a kickstand. A single legger isn't going to support much weight. A double legger will offer more stability, but that's only if everything's balanced and the surface is level. Rear triangle kickstands are more stable in that regard.

[adventurepdx]

Sure I get that, but I'm not up for loading a bike like we do and taking off with any part of my frame crushed! I reckon I'm just funny like that!

Understood. I wouldn't want to, either. But it has happened.

Kickstands are one of those personal questions when it comes to touring. Some want them, some don't. It's a debate that pops up every once in a while here. But the OP wants a kickstand.

[etsisk]

Yup! Just stuck my 2 cents in in case the OP was thinking one was necessary.

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[Pat Lamb]

Which rear kickstand have you been using?

The one I've used is the rear triangle version made by Greenfield. Never used it on a tour, but have used it for day-to-day commuting, and I have had loads on it.

I have this one, and have used it on tour.  Never had any problems -- except leaning over on freshly wetted sod once, it sank into the lawn and fell over. 

Mine's about 10 years old, and honestly needs a little maintenance.  I need to take it off and wrap an old inner tube around the stays since the inner rubber has dried and shrank, and I need to drill a hole in an old golf ball or something as the rubber on the bottom of the stand has worn out.  Still does it's job on hard surfaces with everyday commuting and weekend rides.