Author Topic: Advice Please -- topic is what liner set to use with this sleep set up  (Read 1869 times)

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Offline NWAdventureGal

I have a Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite Sleeping Pad and I've decided to go with a highly compressible, lightweight down quilt instead of a sleeping bag because I don't do any winter camping. In the mountains in the spring/fall, though, it can still get down to about 15 degree some nights. I need a liner that will "play well" with my sleep pad and quilt/comforter. Since no zipper, I am thinking maybe there is something lightweight and compressable out there that the pad can slip into or something? Anyone know of a freestanding product like that that isn't part of a whole system? Thanks.

Offline walks.in2.trees

I have a Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite Sleeping Pad and I've decided to go with a highly compressible, lightweight down quilt instead of a sleeping bag because I don't do any winter camping. In the mountains in the spring/fall, though, it can still get down to about 15 degree some nights. I need a liner that will "play well" with my sleep pad and quilt/comforter. Since no zipper, I am thinking maybe there is something lightweight and compressable out there that the pad can slip into or something? Anyone know of a freestanding product like that that isn't part of a whole system? Thanks.
You don't mention the temp rating of your quilt, but the Reactor will let you go about 15°F cooler, or can be used on its own if the quilt is too much for warmer temps.

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Offline Pat Lamb

FWIW, the coldest I've slept outdoors is 20F, and every time it got that cold I was happy to have a mummy.

YMMV.

Offline NWAdventureGal

Thank you for the input :)

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Offline walks.in2.trees

But If it's a 0°F TQ though, that might be ok with that pad, all of my cold weather experience is with a hammock though, and I use a 0°F Down top and bottom Quilt-set, plenty warm to -13°F... But again that's not with a pad

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Offline walks.in2.trees

I have heard good things about that pad though, I just can't remember how cold... I'll see if I can find the source

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Offline NWAdventureGal

I'm happy with the pad I have. I am looking for a liner that will stay in place. I'm about to give up and sew my own.

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Offline staehpj1

FWIW, the coldest I've slept outdoors is 20F, and every time it got that cold I was happy to have a mummy.
I too found that for me a mummy bag has worked out better than a quilt.  If I use a quilt it needs to be wide or have some means of keeping it in place and the draft out (straps, skirt, etc).  As a result it winds up being as heavy (or heavier) than my 17 ounce Mountain Hardwear Phantom 45.  When I want it to be like a quilt I zip it open and use it like one.  When I want maximum warmth I zip it up and pull the hood drawstring to leave only a small opening to breathe through.  Despite being a nominal 45 F bag it has served me well down into the teens F.

I have in recent years switched to using a bivy on most trips.  That has me wondering if a quilt might work well with a bivy, since the bivy would keep the edges tucked and sealed when in the bivy.  I have not bothered to experiment with that though since i love my Phantom 45 and there just isn't much weight to be saved when it is just over a pound.

Also I wonder why you would use a full closed liner with a quilt.  Wouldn't an open bottomed liner have any of the same advantages or disadvantages the quilt has?  That or an outer cover like a bivy.

BTW, the bivies I am referring to are not the tiny tent type withe sturdy materials, hoops, and what not.  I prefer the ones that are just an envelope (5-7 ounces).  If I am going to go with a bivy that is a lot heavier than that I will go to a regular light weight tent.

I find a setup like I use infinitely variable.  I can sleep on top of the whole rig.  Then as it gets cooler and breezier can progressively, sleep under the zipped open sleeping bag (maybe with an arm or leg out), get in and zip the bag, climb in the bivy, pull up he bag's hood, and then draw the drawstring tight.

I also adjust what I wear in the bag and sometimes pile any extra clothes on top of me for extra warmth.  I also find a pair of very warm, dry, loose fitting socks a must in cold weather.

Offline janetanorth

I also used the neo air xlite with a quilt, plus the sea to summit reactor compact plus liner. I made sure to have a set of long underwear and warm socks.
It worked fabulously!

Offline NWAdventureGal

I also used the neo air xlite with a quilt, plus the sea to summit reactor compact plus liner. I made sure to have a set of long underwear and warm socks.
It worked fabulously!
Thank you Janetanorth; I will definitely check it out!

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