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Offline John Nelson

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 11:14:05 am »
Loader, it's fun to have someone here with lots of basic questions! Your questions are pretty easy for us to answer.

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more gallon to take with me, too heavy.

Really? With all the stuff you're carrying, a few gallons of water is practically nothing.

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How safe is a bicyclist on the road?

Safer than most people think, and probably safer than you are at home. Getting hit by a car is your biggest risk. Getting attacked by a psycho killer or a grizzly bear are your smallest risks. Having your stuff stolen is a medium risk, but you can control that risk by being careful.

I’ve never been in a place on all my tours where water wasn’t available at some point in the day.
Rare, but such places certainly exist in the U.S. I've carried as much as three gallons for crossing the Mojave desert.

Do you need to filter water or boil enough?

You can carry a filter if you want. However I've found that, except for wilderness touring on a mountain bike, places that lack available potable drinking water also lack available surface water to purify (at least in first-world countries).

What kind of diet do you prefer on the road?

What kind of diet do you prefer at home? It varies by person and by how much you enjoy cooking, and if you have dietary restrictions. I can get by just fine with cold food, so I don't feel the need to cook (although I do anyway sometimes, just for fun). I take non-perishable food (energy bars, jerky, peanut butter, candy bars, pop tarts, etc.) for emergencies and the rare places where there is no food available for purchase, and consume perishable foods within a few hours of purchase. I sometimes carry a small alcohol stove for making dried foods such as oatmeal or rice.

Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 02:06:10 pm »
I myself was lying all broken half a year in 2004. Returned at night home from work on a motorcycle, and on the lightbox I was hit by a car.
Fracture of the arm, contusion and fracture of the foot, brain concussion and two cracks in the spine.
But I asked about the possibility of banditry or robbery.

In my state are quite calm, I often travel to New Jersey and Pennsylvania, too, there was no problem, so far.
But, I repeat, I've never been in the central states and I do not know what morals people have there.
Moreover, I have a strong accent when I try to speak English. >:(
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 02:16:23 pm »
  You see mr. John Nelson,  I'm no longer a boy, although not quite old men. But although I'm not quite old, I already have to watch my digestion. In addition, the blood sugar is already elevated and should be monitored. It's just such a great journey in my life and I need to prepare seriously for it.
Especially now we have snow and it is cold and it is not possible to ride a bicycle. Although I saw cyclings in Alaska at -33 C
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 02:21:55 pm »
Another important question.
How much cost is a long journey for you. How much, for example, cost the trans-American travel.
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline PNWRider92

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 02:53:01 pm »
Another important question.
How much cost is a long journey for you. How much, for example, cost the trans-American travel.

That’ll vary as well. I’ve toured a lot and my cheapest tour ended up being my longest. I averaged $7.50/day. $720 total over 96 days. My most expensive was $15.93/day. $956 over 60 days. I don’t eat much and tend to camp for free as much as possible. I’ll have about $600 for my Route 66 ride this year. Planning on taking 60ish days.

That’s not the norm though. Most cyclist spend a lot more. That’s not a luxury I have though. Those prices don’t include transportation cost to/from the tour and BikeFlight cost.

John Nelson: How do you quote multiple people at once? 3 gallons is a lot! I can only carry about a gallon with me at any given time. I don’t consume too much water though. I plan to add extra water carrying capacity before I hit the desert on tour this year.
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Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2018, 03:07:02 pm »
Another important question.
How much cost is a long journey for you. How much, for example, cost the trans-American travel.

That’ll vary as well. I’ve toured a lot and my cheapest tour ended up being my longest. I averaged $7.50/day. $720 total over 96 days. My most expensive was $15.93/day. $956 over 60 days. I don’t eat much and tend to camp for free as much as possible. I’ll have about $600 for my Route 66 ride this year. Planning on taking 60ish days.

That’s not the norm though. Most cyclist spend a lot more. That’s not a luxury I have though. Those prices don’t include transportation cost to/from the tour and BikeFlight cost.

John Nelson: How do you quote multiple people at once? 3 gallons is a lot! I can only carry about a gallon with me at any given time. I don’t consume too much water though. I plan to add extra water carrying capacity before I hit the desert on tour this year.

Perfectly! This is fully included in my calculations.
I receive a pension from the company where I worked and in February I will begin to receive Social Security, this should be enough for traveling, food and spare parts for a bicycle, if needed.

Another naive question.
Many bridges do not have a pedestrian or bicycling track. How do you act in this case?
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline PNWRider92

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 03:12:13 pm »

Another naive question.
Many bridges do not have a pedestrian or bicycling track. How do you act in this case?

Either take the lane of travel or find a bridge that does have a bike lane. Bridges aren’t usually too long.

Have you considered purchasing the ACA maps and following their routes? They’ll tell you what you need to know for crossing bridges and everything else.
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Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 03:17:22 pm »

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Have you considered purchasing the ACA maps and following their routes?
Are these apps for the smartphone?
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline PNWRider92

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 03:30:05 pm »

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Have you considered purchasing the ACA maps and following their routes?
Are these apps for the smartphone?

They have both. Digital and physical maps.

https://www.adventurecycling.org/cyclosource-store/route-maps/
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Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2018, 03:34:40 pm »
 
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They have both. Digital and physical maps.
It's good. I always prefer paper maps, it's easier to navigate the terrain. But I do not disdain the electronic ones either.
Where can they be bought?
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline Loader

God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2018, 03:41:18 pm »
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Price
$15.75

Wow! they are expensive! :o
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline PNWRider92

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2018, 03:45:48 pm »
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Price
$15.75

Wow! they are expensive! :o

Not too bad. They’re waterproof and tearproof. And you can always sell them after your trip. There’s a classifieds section on here.
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Offline Loader

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 04:05:59 pm »
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Not too bad.

A set of 7 maps only for the East Coast! 15 x 7 = a lot! :'(
God created the universe, and man created the wheel.

God invented our legs for us, we came up with pedals for our feet.

So the bike was born.

Offline John Nelson

Re: From NY to Florida. From Florida to California and beck no NY&
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 04:09:07 pm »
Wow! they are expensive! :o
I have found that they easily pay for themselves by helping you find free places to sleep. They also considerably improve your safety by keeping you on off-beat roads. But they aren't any good unless you follow the exact route they lay out.

Many bridges do not have a pedestrian or bicycling track. How do you act in this case?
Depends on the route. Going across the country east-west, the longest bridges you will encounter are across the biggest rivers, such as the Mississippi. Going down the Pacific Coast, there are many bridges more than a mile long. As you say, most bridges don't have a good accommodation for bicycles. The best bet is to try to arrange your route so that you can ride them early in the morning. This isn't always possible, so you just have to grit your teeth and go for it. As Ty said, take the lane, completely blocking the cars from trying to pass you. They might get annoyed, but they'll deal with it.

John Nelson: How do you quote multiple people at once?

While you are in the middle of composing a reply, look for "Insert Quote".

3 gallons is a lot! I can only carry about a gallon with me at any given time. I don’t consume too much water though. I plan to add extra water carrying capacity before I hit the desert on tour this year.

Plenty of water is the secret for not dying in the desert in the summer. I spread the water around. Three quarts in water bottles on the frame. One quart in each of the four panniers. A two-liter platypus strapped to the top of each rear pannier.

How much cost is a long journey for you. How much, for example, cost the trans-American travel.

When I did the ACA TransAm route, I averaged $16 a day. $12 of that was for food. The secret to cheap travel is never to pay to sleep. The ACA TransAm route is the most well-established route in the country, and the ACA maps tell you how to find free places to sleep. Also, since people along the ACA TransAm are used to cyclists, there are many that will offer you food. When I have done other routes, I have indulged in campgrounds that require payment, and received less hospitality. On those tours, I average $32 a day. I eat in a restaurant about once a day and eat grocery store food the rest of the time. You can save more money by staying out of restaurants and never buying alcohol or sports drinks.