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Offline Srauschenberg

ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« on: July 27, 2019, 10:21:13 pm »
Has anyone had luck using ACAs digital routes on a wahoo? My Element loads the route, but doesn't display the map or give directions. If there's an extra step I'm missing beyond importing into and from RWGPS I'd be interested to hear about it.

Offline HobbesOnTour

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 05:40:03 am »
How have you put the gpx on the Elemnt? By cable? Through the app? Have you tried loading the route in Komoot or RideWithGPS first and syncing the unit? Loading a gpx file directly to the app or unit will not give turn by turn directions, only a breadcrumb trail. That's why you'd use something like Komoot or RWGPS.

Where are you in relation to the route?

Finally, have you checked that the underlying maps are actually loaded on the unit? You'll see that in the app.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 09:19:01 am by HobbesOnTour »

Offline Srauschenberg

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2019, 11:00:35 am »
Route was uploaded to RWGPS then synced to the wahoo. I'm on the route, so it should show up on the wahoo. I see area roads, so I think underlying maps are fine. The RWGPS route syncs fine with a Garmin, so I assume there's something a little wierd with the wahoo ...

Offline HobbesOnTour

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2019, 01:50:46 pm »
That's clearer.

If you have the RWGPS app on your phone, can you open it and see the route?
If you have the appropriate sub on RWGPS can you navigate the route on the app?
If you have the appropriate sub on RWGPS can you download the gpx file? If so, you could try renaming the file, importing it into the app, syncing the unit and then using the unit. (of course, if you have the original gpx file that would be better)

After that, I don't know what else to do.

Without meaning to be insulting, are you sure you have loaded the route correctly on the unit?
Maybe try loading a totally different route, starting it then reloading the one you want.

Have you ever had this problem before?


Offline RonK

ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2019, 05:22:53 pm »
The Wahoo Elemnt does not have navigation capabilities and cannot navigate  a route.
It can only follow a track.

GPS Navigation 101:

A route is series of intermittent waypoints which mark the location of towns, services and points of interest. It contains no detailed navigation information. The device must be able to navigate its way between waypoints.

A track is a series of hundreds or even thousands of closely spaced track points depending on the length of the track. The device does not need navigation capabilities to follow a track.

The ACA files are routes, not tracks.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 07:08:25 pm by RonK »
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Offline jrobertson

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2019, 11:58:54 am »
Hello - Sorry for the confusion with our data. I'll try to add some clarification here. All of the ACA .gpx data available for purchase are TRACK line elements. It is confusing, because a .gpx file can contain both ROUTE and TRACK elements, but we ship everything tagged as a track. A TRACK line is simply a series of hundreds of lat/long pairs that are strung together to form a detailed line that can be displayed on various devices and applications. Many users import our track data onto ridewithgps, edit it, generate cues, and then a .gpx file can be exported in a variety of formats including .gpx(track), .gpx(route), .fit, and .tcx. RWGPS provides good info about the format differences in the export dialogue and when each one might be the best choice.

Regards,
*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*

Jamie Robertson
Routes Director, Routes & Mapping

Adventure Cycling Association
Inspiring and empowering people to travel by bicycle.
800/755-2453, 406/721-1776 x237
www.adventurecycling.org

Follow Routes & Mapping on Twitter: @acaroutes

Offline HobbesOnTour

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 03:24:59 am »
Has anyone had luck using ACAs digital routes on a wahoo? My Element loads the route, but doesn't display the map or give directions. If there's an extra step I'm missing beyond importing into and from RWGPS I'd be interested to hear about it.

Hi,
I'm wondering if you got this sorted?

Offline Srauschenberg

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2019, 09:13:10 pm »
Hey, no I never got this sorted ... I might be able to, but don't have the time or resources to find the solution (I'm in the middle of a tour). If anyone gets this to work, please let me know!

Offline HobbesOnTour

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2019, 05:56:43 am »
Hello - Sorry for the confusion with our data. I'll try to add some clarification here. All of the ACA .gpx data available for purchase are TRACK line elements. It is confusing, because a .gpx file can contain both ROUTE and TRACK elements, but we ship everything tagged as a track. A TRACK line is simply a series of hundreds of lat/long pairs that are strung together to form a detailed line that can be displayed on various devices and applications. Many users import our track data onto ridewithgps, edit it, generate cues, and then a .gpx file can be exported in a variety of formats including .gpx(track), .gpx(route), .fit, and .tcx. RWGPS provides good info about the format differences in the export dialogue and when each one might be the best choice.

Regards,

Since the op is still having this problem can you suggest what they should try?

Offline Srauschenberg

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2019, 10:24:06 am »
Thanks for the clarification. I imported the file to RWGPS but did not  edit them to generate a cue sheet. It seems that the ACA files can be made to work with a Wahoo, but not without modification?

Offline jrobertson

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2019, 10:30:00 am »
Srauschenberg, That's correct. Once you've uploaded our track lines to RWGPS, you need to 'edit' the route, make sure that the generated route matches our gpx line that is visible on the map, save the route and then that exported/synced route will have the cues. This is something that we're hoping to provide out-of-the-box in the future, but we're not quite there yet. Good luck!

*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*

Jamie Robertson
Routes Director, Routes & Mapping

Adventure Cycling Association
Inspiring and empowering people to travel by bicycle.
800/755-2453, 406/721-1776 x237
www.adventurecycling.org

Follow Routes & Mapping on Twitter: @acaroutes

Offline HobbesOnTour

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2019, 11:09:45 am »
Srauschenberg, That's correct. Once you've uploaded our track lines to RWGPS, you need to 'edit' the route, make sure that the generated route matches our gpx line that is visible on the map, save the route and then that exported/synced route will have the cues. This is something that we're hoping to provide out-of-the-box in the future, but we're not quite there yet. Good luck!
That's quite important and something that should be highlighted on the GPS Devices page, no?
There is information there for various models of Garmin, but nothing for Wahoo.

As the OP has discovered, he needs to manually edit the supplied file to get it to work. That's only discovered at the start! Hardly ideal.


Offline sbwaxman

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2022, 11:39:10 am »
Hello! Is there any update on this? I am also discovering rather later in the game than I'd've hoped that the ACA routes do not seem to have cues that the WAHOO can pick up. Thank you! Sarah

Offline sbwaxman

Re: ACA gpx on Wahoo?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2022, 04:46:26 pm »
Hello again!

I found the Wahoo page on the ACA site and see that this is still not available, but it appears I can import the ACA maps into RWGPS and use the auto-trace tool (with a paid RWGPS subscription) to generate cue sheets, which are editable. So that is what I'm going to try! Still interested in hearing updates or others' experiences. Thanks in advance, and apologies if I missed a more current thread about this.

Sarah