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Offline Colorado.Michael

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2019, 12:34:48 pm »
The car rental doesn't work for me and/or some folks, especially folks that don't have economic stability. You can't rent a rental car without a major credit card, and I only use my banking ATM card for everything. Most places won't let you rent form them that way because of the massive problem with car theft from rental agencies that there is a massive cover up about because people and corporations don't want you knowing the truth about what is REALLY happening behind the scenes. So ghetto people go into local car rental places all the time with limited funds in their account on purpose, to steal the car or joy ride it and not care about the outcome. So now that takes away from all the other folks that are good and wouldn't do that, and they take it away from the rest of us because of all the actual real degenerate American 's that the massive fraud is covered up about. So this takes away from the good poor folks and less options for us. It has gotten so bad in the last couple of years that it's just about impossible to rent a car that way, even at places that I have established time and trust with on car rentals today.

The other problem with car rental is that folks that use bikes as primary transportation and don't have cars, don't have car insurance coverage. Without it, they charge $31 a day, which is mandatory insurance, to get the car. So the car you claim is so cheap, is suddenly hundreds of dollars more expensive for this alone for folks like myself.

Car rentals is for the 5% elite (that's generous) of the world, especially more so for the elite capitalistic businesses of the world that use them more than anything. I don't fit in those categories and not as blessed as others in that category sadly.

Sorry, I need for poor cyclist folks to think outside the box on this one. I don't have many of those luxuries as others have in life. Bad choices, cursed, raised in poverty,  whatever...could care less about the reasons or excuses at this point in life. Just not options for me though.

That's the downside about being poor and asking for advice on social media platforms that are geared at image more than factual or totally helpful. Then the help or advice you receive becomes a matter of dissociation based on image, judgement, or accidental grouping of people.

So it's either a $200 train that eats up half my funds for the rest of the month and try to make it on $200 survival for 10 days in a place I know nothingor nobody until I get more money at the end of the month, or ride it out with the extra $200 for food, water, and security I would have there because I know I can survive on that money if I don't use it on a train no matter where I am. I have all the gear to survive outside. Right now it's a matter of financial decision. If it was 2 weeks from now when I had more money, I would just take the train at this point. But for further disclosure, pride is messing with my head saying, "I got this and can do it!" and have the mental notch in my bed post when it's done. But I can come back when it's warmer and nicer in Colorado like I plan to, and get that notch on my bed post metaphorically speaking anyway.

If we really got technical, I am a Colorado boy now for a long time. If I had to, I can survive in anything. Period. I bike and ride in the Colorado Rocky mountains every day, 24/7/365 days of the years, for a decade with no car. Most people on the planet can't handle the terrain I ride normally, never mind if I will make it or not. I also know that if I really wanted to, I can go get real tires for my bike with knobs, and ride out of the Rockies just fine if I avoid major white out storms or deep snow kind of stuff. I can ride in bad weather just fine if I have to with the right gear. I am strong enough, smart enough, and experienced enough to do it. I just haven't personally done it to the mass level I am talking about at this time of year, solo, with noting to fall back on if something goes wrong. At the same token, I don't need pride to mess with my life or an aging body to prove anything, when I can reserve my body for better places to see and visit that I haven't yet if the train is the best option. It's a matter of computing all the variables and what makes the most sense with the due diligence on those variables at play, so I know it's a tough thing for others to advise about because we all have different variables in play about how to go about this or even why we are doing it.

So rental car is not an option for me.

It's text so it sounds crude and prideful. Not trying to come off that way, but everything I said is reality and honest.

Offline Colorado.Michael

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2019, 12:37:46 pm »
Plus if you take the ST, if you have a passport, check out Puerto Penasco in Mexico about a days ride south of the Arizona border.  Nice, warm, and cheap. Well, that is most all of Mexico anyway.

Tailwinds, John

I don't have a passport, but I was under the impression if you are a U.S. citizen, driver's license is fine to get across the border. Is this true?

I also really don't have much of a desire to go to Mexico. Would rather go north when it warms up. Not south.

Offline John Nettles

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2019, 12:44:47 pm »
Since you funds are limited and you are used to riding in all conditions, ride south.  If you feel you hate the south and don't want to deal with riding through the reservations, then you can still grab a train or a bus in places. 

I do not know if you can cross the US border without a passport.  Possibly if you have an "enhanced" drivers license (don't know if Colorado has one).  And I was thinking Mexico in the winter when it is nice, not the summer.  Baja California is another nice, cheap, area to hang for a while.

And I guess a little used option but I guess it is possible is to hitchhike.  Or maybe see about a ride-share on Craigslist, i.e. see if someone with a van or pickup going to California you could share the cost of gas with (or say you will give a flat $X).

Whatever you do, have a great trip!  Tailwinds, John

Offline Colorado.Michael

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2019, 01:51:54 pm »
Thanks John. This thread was helpful and I did end up booking a train just now to Sacramento. I can lighten my load now also.

Looks like I will be on the west coast by Thursday afternoon trying to figure this out in warmer weather.

Thanks for the assistance. Sometimes folks just need to process stuff openly and see what comes out of it.

Even got the ticket for $50 bucks less than what I was looking at so I am happier. With bike fee and ticket, $158.

See you out there some day ;)

Offline EmilyG

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2019, 12:41:33 pm »
I highly recommend signing up with Warmshowers, if you are not familiar with the resource. Also, there are many hostels in the west, with cheaper lodging when needed.  The Pacific Northwest is a good place to be in the fall. Especially if you have good rain gear and fenders on your bike.  We get a lot of precipitation out here!   But that means the coast is lush and green all year.
Best wishes on your journey. 
-Emily

Offline BikeliciousBabe

Re: Help getting out of the Rockies (time sensitive)
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2019, 08:16:57 am »


I don't have a passport, but I was under the impression if you are a U.S. citizen, driver's license is fine to get across the border. Is this true?


Don't know if it will get you into Mexico, but you need a passport to get back into the U.S.