Author Topic: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023  (Read 2726 times)

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Offline Roderick_Young

I don't know if anyone is riding in this weather, but just in case, storms in the past week have caused Highway 1 to close in various places.  Might be open in a few days, or a few months.

When this happened 5 or so years ago, I took Hwy 25 and other backroads, then jumped on Hwy 101 at San Miguel.  101 is legal for cyclists in some sections, but I wouldn't recommend it going into San Luis Obispo.  The Cuesta Grade is too fast (80+ mph cars), and the shoulder is often clogged with debris.  A better option might be to take the train/bus from Salinas to San Luis Obispo.  Hopefully Adventure Cycling will come out with an official detour, soon.

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/big-sur-highway-1-closed-17700446.php?fbclid=IwAR2TlZ7OsajJeEZ2_XKXueKoC8IJjzrlU7LGvi8TmIcg74e9znzJHig8gNE
« Last Edit: March 23, 2023, 02:22:29 pm by CMajernik »

Offline amywally

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy. 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2023, 01:31:54 pm »
Below is the detour we have used to get around landslides on Highway 1 in Big Sur in previous years:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/35120765

The 147.9 mile detour begins in Marina, and rejoins the Pacific Coast route just south of Cambria. The detour does not use US 101 at any point.

California is currently undergoing historic flooding, so parts of this detour may also be currently flooded as well, particularly where it crosses the Salinas River. Please ride with caution and never attempt to cross floodwaters.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2023, 02:22:04 pm by CMajernik »
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Offline ethanleba

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2023, 01:13:14 pm »
Does anyone know if the road closures at Big Sur are passable by bicycle now? I'm planning on doing this route in early March.

Thanks for sharing the detour Amy! Can you comment on the quality of the detour? I saw that there's an Amtrak route from Salinas to SLO, so I'm wondering if I should just bypass the section by train if the detour is unpleasant/unsafe.

Also, if anyone has biked through Carmel Valley I'd love to hear how that is! I think that could be an alternate route for the detour.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2023, 01:19:01 pm by ethanleba »

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Offline amywally

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2023, 12:24:46 pm »
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Can you comment on the quality of the detour?

A couple things to note about the Salinas Valley Detour:

-If you ride the detour in summer, it will be MUCH hotter than the coastal route. The average high in Soledad in July/August is 99°F, vs. the average in Big Sur is 76°F. Proximity to ocean affects the temperature/weather significantly. Check the weather forecast before riding to ensure will not be riding in extreme heat.
-The detour will have significantly less tourist traffic than the coastal route in the summer, but you will have to deal with more farming trucks/equipment on the road. The Salinas Valley is one of the most productive agricultural regions in the country, nicknamed the "Salad Bowl of the World" producing primarily lettuce, spinach, strawberries, and tomatoes.
-The detour does NOT use US 101 at all, although it crosses it twice.
-There are limited services between King City and Paso Robles, a distance of about 62 miles. This section is also quite hilly.
-Most of the detour does not have shoulders, but it is also mostly rural with low traffic. Traffic will increase around the small towns, and recreational traffic will increase near Lake Nacimiento.
-The last 22 miles of the detour uses SR 46 from Paso Robles back to the coast. Traffic will be much higher on this 2-lane highway, but it has wide paved shoulders.


Here is a blog post of someone who rode the Salinas Valley Detour in 2017: http://www.spokenfly.com/blog/bigsurdetour

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Also, if anyone has biked through Carmel Valley I'd love to hear how that is! I think that could be an alternate route for the detour.

We do not recommend biking through Carmel Valley. The road is very narrow, hilly, and curvy with no shoulder and short sight distances, making for dangerous biking conditions.

Here is the link to the forum thread from the last time this detour was posted in 2017: https://forums.adventurecycling.org/index.php?topic=14377.0
« Last Edit: February 21, 2023, 01:08:05 pm by amywally »
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Cartographer/GIS Specialist

Adventure Cycling Association
Inspiring people of all ages to travel by bicycle.
800/755-2453, 406/721-1776
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Offline Bearlover1954

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2023, 11:35:35 am »
As of Mar 12th it looks like the Ca 1 is closed from south of Big Sur to Ragged Point until the end of this year to fix all the damage from the rockslide and stabilize the cliffs above the road.  ACA needs to come up with a safe bypass around this closure...is it safe to cut over to the 101 and take that south to Paso Robles and then cut over to Cambria or Morro Bay?

Offline hondo77

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2023, 12:19:29 pm »
ACA needs to come up with a safe bypass around this closure...

The route given four posts above yours looks pretty good: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/35120765

Offline hondo77

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2023, 10:51:56 am »
FWIW, to go around the PCH closure next month, I'm planning to go from Santa Cruz to camp at Pinnacles National Park Campground, then camp at Lake Nacimiento, then follow the route above back onto PCH (maybe catching it near Cayucos, though) to camp in Pismo Beach.

Offline rselenis@hotmail.com

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2023, 04:37:04 am »
We are looking at options for the closure for our SEA2SAND2023 ride, expecting to be in the area mid-next week.
The latest CalTrans statement "[Highway 1] Is closed from Ragged Point (San Luis Obispo Co) to 14.1 mi south of Big Sur (Monterey Co) - Due to rock slides - Motorists are advised to use an alternate route".  This addresses motorists, but not cyclists.
Google maps for cars routes around the area, but bicycling routes right through.  It may be wishful thinking, but it would be a shame to detour around the area and then find out later that a car free ride through Big Sur was possible.
Has anyone tried this route lately?  Any success?  Any recommendations on who to contact to find out definitively?
Otherwise we will likely go with the previously mentioned PC04 Detour #2 2021 route.

Offline CMajernik

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2023, 02:50:47 pm »
That closure is in Caltrans District 5. I looked for a phone number but couldn't find one. There is this but it might be a recorded message: "You can also call 1-800-427-7623 for current highway conditions."

I suggest you call the Monterey County sheriff, 831-755-3700. On the sheriff's website it says: For information regarding State highways in Monterey County, please contact CALTRANS at (805) 549-3138 or (831)753-0187.

You also could call local bike shops in Carmel-by-the-Sea and Morrow Bay. They might have information.

In the past, when there have been closures on Hwy. 1 due to storms and mudslides, we've been told that bicyclists aren't allowed along with motorists.
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Offline Maurice

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2023, 08:24:09 pm »
Has anyone considered using any gravel/dirt roads to bypass the closure?  I've plotted this out on ridewithgps, but 1) I'm not 100% sure where the closure is, so I don't know if this is reconnecting with Hwy 1 (heading south) south of the closure and 2) I can't be totally sure that these roads are public, though in my experience ridewithgps usually won't let me plot a route on closed/private roads.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43378337

Offline jamawani

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2023, 09:40:48 pm »
Has anyone considered using any gravel/dirt roads to bypass the closure? ....  ridewithgps usually won't let me plot a route on closed/private roads.https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43378337

Well, the big, ole. mondo gate kinda suggests that it is private.
And, trust me, RWGPS routes you on private, closed, nonexistent roads quite often.

Offline ObsidianMirrors

Re: Pacific Coast Section 4 Hwy 1 rockslides south of Big Sur 1/2023
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2023, 09:37:29 pm »
Has anyone considered using any gravel/dirt roads to bypass the closure?  I've plotted this out on ridewithgps, but 1) I'm not 100% sure where the closure is, so I don't know if this is reconnecting with Hwy 1 (heading south) south of the closure and 2) I can't be totally sure that these roads are public, though in my experience ridewithgps usually won't let me plot a route on closed/private roads.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43378337

I'm trying to figure a workaround out for this area too - it might be worth trying to contact the Granola Monastery at the tail end of that route to see what the deal is with the road / whether or not that would technically spit you out prematurely.