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Offline BikeliciousBabe

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2024, 12:18:23 pm »
The OP reads like it was generated by AI.  We are seeing a lot of that over on Bikeforums.net

"Some might shiver the night away under a fluffy down comforter in a room that is a smidgen below 70F, while others will wrap themselves in an old horse blanket and snore all night on an ice floe."

Seriously?  Doesn't sound like anything a real person would write in this context.  I am willing to bet the the thread title is what the program was asked.

Offline froze

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2024, 08:38:51 pm »
The OP reads like it was generated by AI.  We are seeing a lot of that over on Bikeforums.net

"Some might shiver the night away under a fluffy down comforter in a room that is a smidgen below 70F, while others will wrap themselves in an old horse blanket and snore all night on an ice floe."

Seriously?  Doesn't sound like anything a real person would write in this context.  I am willing to bet the the thread title is what the program was asked.

That is possible, Quora has been doing that for quite some time, the questions are mostly stupid, but they're designed to get readers, and now forums are taking a page from Quora to get readers and members.

Offline davidbonn

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2024, 09:17:18 pm »
I am not an AI.

Offline ray b

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2024, 10:40:43 am »
I am not an AI.
Right.
This is the kind of writer that AI loves to quote.
Thanks Dave.
“A good man always knows his limitations.”

Offline davidbonn

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2024, 07:19:21 pm »
I am not an AI.

More precisely, given how AIs work and are trained they are unlikely to generate odd turns of phrase or similes.

Most LLMs are trained on stuff from the internet and on the average they converge on a ‘voice’ that sounds like a Wikipedia article or a New York Times editorial.

It would be awesome and a practical application of our existing LLM technology if we used it to do ‘writing style transfer’ and modify English text to make it look like something written by Tom Robbins, Joseph Campbell, or Ernest Hemingway.  Although I’d be fearful of it if it could do Jack Kerouac.

Even crazier is if it could do your writing as Cold Mountain (Han Shan) poems.

Offline canalligators

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2024, 08:54:57 pm »

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It would be awesome and a practical application of our existing LLM technology if we used it to do ‘writing style transfer’ and modify English text to make it look like something written by Tom Robbins, Joseph Campbell, or Ernest Hemingway.  Although I’d be fearful of it if it could do Jack Kerouac.

Even crazier is if it could do your writing as Cold Mountain (Han Shan) poems.

Frankly, I’m tired of informational writing that has to throw in personal interest, statements on the human condition, general fluff, etc.  A description of sleeping bag temperature by Hemmingway would likely be better than one by most magazine writers, but I’d rather have it authored by a good technical writer.  I’ve playes with ChatGPT, and it seems to generate crap that sounds like advertising or a AAA travelogue.  Barf.

Offline davidbonn

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2024, 01:40:56 pm »
... I’ve playes with ChatGPT, and it seems to generate crap that sounds like advertising or a AAA travelogue.  Barf.

All LLMs are trained on data scraped from the Internet.  So basically they compose like a typical Reddit poster.  You train on barf and you get barf.

The technically best open-source LLM training dataset is called The Pile.  Left unsaid is what it is a pile of.

Offline BikeliciousBabe

Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2024, 10:03:32 am »
I am not an AI.
"Only the real Messiah would deny that he is the Messiah."

Offline David W Pratt

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Re: How warm should your sleepingbag be?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2024, 04:38:35 pm »
Warm enough.
That might be warm enough to be comfortable every night, or, you might save some $$$ on the bag and be a little chilly on one night in 10 or 20.