Poll

Are you for or against the sell of the ACA Headquarters

Yes, I am for the sell
10 (30.3%)
No, I am against the sell
20 (60.6%)
Undecided
3 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: January 12, 2026, 08:54:03 pm

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Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2025, 09:47:26 am »
I hope that everyone who sends an email to the board or Andy actually receives a response. I have not.

Hi, MT_Cylist, Nicki Bailey here--ACA staff member. We have worked diligently to ensure that everyone receives responses to their questions. That said, we certainly could have missed something and if that is the case, I profusely apologize. Could you please forward your message to questions@adventurecycling.org ? Thank you.
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Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2025, 09:49:38 am »
Nicki, why can't the Leadership post here for everyone to see?

Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2025, 09:57:58 am »
Hi John, we will be doing that by Monday, if not before. This past week, we focused on responding to emails and phone calls, but responding to forum questions is still on the to-do list.

Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management--Special Member Meeting
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2025, 10:01:55 am »
Good morning everyone, I'm going to answer your questions in batches along with a couple of other staff and board to make sure we answer all of your questions.

To John's question#3: Will the virtual Special Member Meeting be available for viewing later?

Yes, the Special Member Meeting will be recorded and made available on our YouTube channel for members who are unable to attend the live session. We recognize that scheduling presents challenges for many members, and we want to ensure everyone has access.
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Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management--
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2025, 10:35:48 am »
To John/DW's questions about discussing with the concerned groups of members: It is absolutely possible we've missed communications from individuals. However, we want to clarify that the board has actively engaged with opposition to the sale. Board members have met with concerned groups on multiple occasions to discuss our current financial realities, explore alternative options, and seek collaborative paths forward.

The board's position does not stem from dismissing these concerns or failing to consider alternative proposals. Rather, after thorough consideration and analysis, the board and staff have concluded that the alternatives proposed do not offer the most viable path forward for the organization at this critical juncture. We respect the perspectives of all members while maintaining our fiduciary responsibility to make decisions we believe serve the long-term interests of Adventure Cycling and its mission. There have been additional meetings, emails and conversations but for brevity, I've listed out the most important ones.

-6/17: Jim Sayer, Greg Siple, June Siple told before the public about the building sale by board. Offered a phone call by interim Executive Director. 
-7/21/25: ACA board responded to Save ACA letter 
-7/23/25: Requested information given in person to Jim Sayer and Sheila Snyder
-Week of 7/28/25 Board members Noel Kegel & John McDermott met Cyndi Steiner, Sheila Snyder, Matthew Cohen 
-8/8/25: Board & Staff Meeting with various life members and Sheila Snyder, Ginny Sullivan, Jim Sayer, Julie Huck, Lys Burden, Greg & June Siple, Gary McFadden. Board members Noel Kegel and John McDermott attended in addition to staff.
-9/23/25 John McDermott (board chair), Cyndi Steiner, Greg Siple
-10/1/25 Andy Williamson's first day as Executive Director
-10/7 Andy met Ginny Sullivan in person
-10/7 Gary McFadden facilitated our VIP/life member meeting/ webinar
-10/8 Andy met Greg and June Siple in person
-10/10 Member meeting/webinar
-10/13 Andy met virtually with Matthew Cohen
-11/3 Andy met Sheila Snyder in person
-11/4 Andy met Jim Sayer in person 
-11/4 Andy met Greg and June Siple in person
-11/11 Andy met with Mike Lessard
-11/18 Andy met virtually with Julie Huck
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Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management #2a,b Independent 3rd Party
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2025, 10:53:09 am »
2a) Who is the second round of voting's independent third party administrator?  The first time it appeared to be a local, pro-cycling company that may not (not saying it is or isn't) be totally independent due to local connections/friendships, concerns, etc.  If the same company is the administrator, why not use a truly independent third party administrator that is not local?

2b) Has or is anyone in the current or past leadership, in any way, connected to the vote's independent third party administrator?  If so, why do you not consider that a conflict of interest? I would think ACA would want to avoid even the appearance of a conflict, much less an actual one.

Although we could legally run the vote in-house, we chose to fund a third-party administrator so the process is independent, auditable, and earns trust. The independent agency administering the vote is Pedal Lucid. While the founder is based in Missoula, the company's staff operates remotely across the country, and the name is just a coincidence (they’re not a cycling-industry company). 

We selected them because they already understand ACA’s membership database from prior technical work, which matters for accurately verifying eligibility, preventing duplicates, and handling edge cases like renewals and household memberships. That familiarity reduces the risk of errors and delays compared to onboarding a brand-new vendor midstream. Independence comes from how the system is set up: voting occurs outside of ACA’s internal systems, with unique credentials for members and audit logs to support verification. Our standard here is accurate eligibility verification, one-member/one-household integrity, and an auditable tally—delivered in a way that’s practical for a nonprofit to administer.

Our relationship with Pedal Lucid is limited to their previous technical consulting work for the organization. We do not consider this a conflict of interest because the voting mechanism operates independently of Adventure Cycling's systems, and Pedal Lucid is professionally and reputationally incentivized to conduct a transparent, auditable election. We know trust matters as much as mechanics, so we’ve structured the vote to be independent in practice and also to minimize reasonable concerns about bias.
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Offline Nicki (ACA Staff)

Re: Questions for Management #7 Other Forums
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2025, 10:58:14 am »
7)Why does ACA not engage other online forums regarding this topic, such as on BikeForums.net/Touring and other places?

We acknowledge that our engagement across all communication platforms has been insufficient, and we sincerely apologize for this shortcoming. With our significantly reduced staff of 17 people, maintaining consistent presence across multiple forums, social media platforms, email communications, and phone inquiries has proven challenging. However, we recognize this is not an acceptable excuse, and we are committed to improving our direct engagement with members on the channels we can appropriately manage.

Offline billschairer@me.com

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2025, 08:13:13 pm »
1.  How many of the active members are life members?
2.  What are the year by year donations in dollars over the past 10 years?
3.  What are the year by year number of life members making donations over the past 10 years?

Offline ray b

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2025, 11:38:59 pm »
John (and John and DW) - Many thanks - as usual - for contributing your time and thoughts to keep us on the road. A very emotional topic and time, and there might be little we can do to rescue the mission of the organization from a dedicated, but perhaps less than professional board of directors. (No money - no mission.) (...and by the way, should I be concerned that no one on the board looks like me? I mean, I never was before.)

Although I was active in the bicycle industry from '72 to '78, and raced a few years after that, I could never afford direct association with Bikecentennial (though I visited the headquarters while cycling cross-country in '79). That said, their marketing and message were inspirational, and gave public credibility to my solo and occasional group wanderings over the last 50 years. 

Have to say, I never fully connected with ACA until I met Jim Sayer..., in person. Jim knew his message and knew how to get that message out face-to-face. In my case, it was a meeting at the bike co-op in Toledo, OH (Toledo?!?). He had the power point presentation, replete with photos of the original rides,  reiteration of the original Bikecentennial message, and explanation of the updated ACA mission. (A tough crowd that night - I recall at least once, he was suprised to be corrected on the origin of a "1976" photo by an audience member who was in the 1975 leadership training photo.)

The next week, I signed up for a life membership - and although I only participated in one ACA group trip before I realized I'm happier at my own pace, I've tried to support the organization and riders when I can.

I guess two points to that story. (1) Though Tick Tock has its place, there's no substitute for personal contact.  (2) The Sayers, Mcfaddens, and Siples of the world know stuff that might be helpful right about now.

(And parenthetically, what does Ambassador Nick Carman - an inspirational presence when I met him on the GDMBR - think about all of this?)

In the personal contact and fund raising realm..., I've mentioned before that my son had the opportunity for a discounted, under-30, 40th anniversary TransAmerica ride. Life altering in many ways. He was a big ACA fan for a while, but dropped out for reasons he hasn't shared. (I note that at age 25 y, he did not "age-out" of ACA. And I checked - no one asked him why he did not renew his membership.)

So that was the 40th anniversary. Where are the 50th anniversary rides?  Where are the sponsored U-30 trips? Where are the mixed transcontinental trips of original riders and U-23 riders? Who took the poll of membership to determine Tuscon in Feb. would attract the most riders and interest. If the ACA had wanted to fund raise this year, they would have followed the lead of Universities, and pulled as many alumni and wannabes back to the original environment of a TransAm trip and hit them up for a ton of money when they stopped at the mother ship in Missoula.  I'm sure these and other ideas came up - who quashed them and how did they get so much individual power. And why would I want to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Bikecentennial on a loop or gravel ride?

Final story in this rambling and whistful ride: One ignores the advice of the Save ACA volunteers at their own risk. In St. Louis, non-profit community radio station KDHX (think Saturday western Swing to Thursday night underground hip-hop and a mandatory studio stop for visitiing musicians) generated a board that in a bout of self interest (falsely labeled diversity), fired a number of their original (and diverse) volunteer DJs without polling their members or the public or listening to the founders. Needless to say, public financial support vanished, and a group of community organizers could not outbid national stations for the wave band, and we now have yet another Christian music radio station at the left end of the FM band.

OK - so who votes we - I'm sorry, not we, but ACA - moves the show to the mountain bike capital of the world and the financially friendly and geographically central town of Bentonville, AR. Arguments for and against? (I'm sure our surprisingly silent executive director would have something to say.) (Andy - you can chime in any time.)

'nuf said. Ride on.
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Offline jrzephyrs

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2025, 02:11:33 pm »
Hi! I'm Jessica Zephyrs, head of Communications at Adventure Cycling. I've been with the organization over 7 years (started when Jim Sayer was ED and I was a communications manager) and have stayed with the organization through four executive directors. Alongside Nicki (both of us are leadership in the organization), I've collected more answers to your questions.

1) Why does ACA not give ANY reasons for NOT selling?  As you know, the founders (the actual creators) of Bikecentennial / ACA, along with several other past "high level" members & employees including a past ACA Executive Director, are against the sell of the building at this time.  I am concerned the information the current ACA leadership is providing may not be all of the information available and that the members may not have the entire picture to vote accurately.  As you know, ACA leadership should endeavor to do what is best for its members and I would think the current leaders would want to address all concerns if the leadership is trying to be as transparent as reasonably possible.

The board and staff considered alternatives and implemented a lot of other incremental changes over the last two years, using other levers before considering a building sale. We acknowledge that the building has value beyond it being a nonliquid asset. HQ can support in-person collaboration, display organizational memorabilia, and potentially generate tenant revenue. But the building also carries real costs and risks: major deferred maintenance (roof/facade/HVAC) estimated at $150k–$250k, plus roughly $55k/year in utilities, and it’s operationally oversized today (7 staff in a 10,000 sq ft building). Setting up the current open floor plan building for tenants would likely require renovations and wouldn’t cover the costs of deferred maintenance. 

Keeping it would mean either trying to raise an additional ~$750k+ per year for 3–5 years (with a shrinking membership base) or cutting one of our core program pillars to reduce insolvency risk. The sale is intended to create 3–5 years of runway so ACA can stabilize and rebuild while protecting the four-pillar model (routes, tours, advocacy, magazine), rather than sacrificing one or more pillars to preserve the building at all costs.

With a favorable lease-back plan, ACA keeps a Missoula presence in its historic building with a smaller, right-sized footprint and continues its display and welcoming functions. This also minimizes costly updates and buildout to be able to make the building suitable to subdivide and lease out. 

On transparency: The board and staff have had over 20 meetings (virtual and in person) and other communications with the organized member group and individuals opposing the sale, shared requested documents over the last 5 months.

4) What happens if the vote fails?  Maybe I am mistaken but I do not think ACA's Leadership has ever specifically mentioned what "Plan B" is. Seriously, what happens if the vote fails to pass?  Keep doing votes until it does properly pass?  Just close the doors and call it quits? Go until the money runs out?  Downsize to only items that pay for themselves?  What?  This is a very serious consideration for many and it has not been addressed in any specific way that I know. If I am incorrect, please provide a link or post the answer here. 

This is an important question that deserves a comprehensive answer. If the building sale does not pass, we face several difficult paths forward:

Option 1 - Increased Fundraising: To maintain our current financial runway of 3-5 years without significant additional staff and program cuts, we would need to raise approximately $750,000+ annually from our community of members and donors. While we would pursue this option, we have significant concerns about the sustainability of this approach given current membership trends and donor capacity.

Option 2 - Significant Downsizing: We would need to reduce staff to approximately 3-4 people plus an executive director and directly cut some of our program pillars entirely (tours, routes, advocacy, magazine). This would inevitably reduce the value of membership and diminish our impact as an organization.

Option 3 - Planned Closure: If we are unable achieve the fundraising levels mentioned above or respond to changing trends, we could maximize our remaining resources by creating as many routes as possible, publishing our expertise on guided tours, and then closing our doors while donating all our assets and intellectual property to the cycling community. A planned closure process is more complex than this summary can provide and would require another membership vote. 

Option 4 - Organizational Merger: We could explore merging with another organization, though this would mean a fundamental change in Adventure Cycling's independent mission and operations and potentially significantly change how members are supported and programs are delivered into the future.

We want to be clear: none of these alternatives provide the pathway to rebuilding Adventure Cycling into the robust, nationally impactful organization we believe it can and should be. None of these options need a headquarters building because a building is not our mission.


5) What programs, projects, etc. has ACA stopped entirely in order to save money so the building does not have to be sold?  Which have been reduced substantially? 

We have taken extensive measures to reduce expenses, as detailed in our FAQ on the vote page (https://www.adventurecycling.org/members/member-voting-for-building-sale/).

Specific actions include:

  • Strategic initiatives: Discontinued all new programs piloted under our 2024 strategic plan
    Retail operations: Limited our Cyclosource store to maps and routes only
    Tours program: Reduced the number and frequency of guided tours offered
    Publications: Decreased the number of magazine issues published annually
    Operating expenses: Reduced insurance and other operational costs
    Staffing: Implemented two rounds of layoffs (2023 and 2025), reducing our team from 42 to 17 staff members—a reduction of more than half. 

Staff has historically been our largest expense, making these personnel reductions the most significant but also the most difficult step we've had to take.


6) Has ACA Leadership in the past 5 years actually surveyed ex-members as to why they are no longer members?  Since a decline in membership is one of the reasons for the dire financial state ACA is in, I would think this would provide ACA Leadership valuable insight as to at least some of the causes of declining membership at ACA because surely not 100% of the drop in membership is solely due to "aging out". 

Yes, over the last few years we have maintained an ongoing lapsed member survey that provides valuable insights into membership attrition. The data reveals three primary factors, each representing roughly equal portions of membership decline:

1. Aging demographics: It is true that many lapsed members cite aging as a factor for not renewing their membership. It is one of the top three reasons selected in our lapsed member survey. We also recognize that many of our longtime members continue to cycle actively and remain deeply engaged with Adventure Cycling. However, we face a significant challenge in attracting and retaining new members across all age groups and cycling backgrounds. Natural membership attrition occurs in any organization, but our recruitment efforts have not kept pace. This gap represents a fundamental challenge to our membership model. 

2. Program and editorial direction: Some members have expressed disagreement with organizational decisions, including concerns about editorial content in the magazine, changes to our tours offerings, and other programmatic directions. We actively incorporate this feedback and continually work to align our programs and content with member preferences. For example, we’ve used this feedback to inform which program pillars to maintain as we face financial challenges (routes, tours, advocacy, and magazine). We have used this feedback to inform story selection in our magazine (more U.S. based, non-epic trips, for example). We used this feedback to think critically about which tours to offer in 2026 (we hear more and more interest in ebike-friendly guided tours). And we are dedicated to continuing implement this feedback.

3. Value perception: Members increasingly question the value of membership given necessary price increases coupled with reduced magazine frequency and fewer member discounts on routes.

These insights directly inform our strategic planning. However, addressing these fundamental challenges requires the financial runway that selling the building would provide. Without this capital, we lack the resources necessary to implement meaningful solutions to these membership concerns.

We also own where we fell short: in the 2018–2023 period, we weren't as focused or consistent as we should have been in member communications and in centering decisions around the member experience.


Why the sale of the building is being pushed as the best choice. 

Both the staff and board of directors believe the building sale represents the best path forward for Adventure Cycling based on our comprehensive analysis of available options.

Our conviction stems from several key factors:

  • Programmatic sustainability: Maintaining our four core pillars (routes, tours, advocacy, and magazine) differentiates us from competitors and provides the foundation for organizational value
    Financial runway: The sale provides 3-5 years of financial stability necessary to revitalize these programs and address the fundamental membership challenges identified in our lapsed member surveys
    Strategic positioning: This timeline allows us to increase the relevance and value of our programs in ways that directly address member concerns while expanding our impact to reach more cyclists

We believe this approach offers the strongest foundation for rebuilding Adventure Cycling into a thriving, sustainable organization with national impact.


I'm also concerned as to why the first vote has cost the organization $30,000, and they expect the same cost to conduct the second vote? I can understand the cost to design and develop the voting process the first time around, but it seems odd that a second vote would have the same costs since it is using the same system that was already put in place.

We understand the concern about the cost of conducting two votes. The expenses for each vote comprise four categories:

Printing and mailing costs for member communications
Third-party administration (Pedal Lucid)
Legal counsel
Staff time and coordination


While the second vote benefits from some efficiencies gained during the first vote, it also includes additional complexities and requirements:

  • Additional mailings to more members than the first vote
    Establishment of a Pedal Lucid-controlled mailbox for mail-in ballots
    A Special Member Meeting conducted with formal procedural requirements similar to a city council meeting
    Implementation of pro rata voting mechanisms 
    Increased legal counsel time to ensure full compliance with all procedural requirements

These additional components and expanded legal oversight are expected to result in costs comparable to the first vote, despite some operational efficiencies. 


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Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2025, 06:38:39 pm »
 First, let me say thank you for publicly responding.  Many members (and non-members) are glad to see a response. I apologize in advance for such a long response.  Brevity unfortunately is not my forte.
 
That said, I will respond to ACA’s posts.  Let me say up front, that I am NOT trying to be or sound rude but it may come across like that.  I, and many others, just want clear and specific answers.
 
Regarding Post 19:  Thank you for the long response but this really does not answer what and why those alternatives are not viable.  And why, specifically are ACA’s Board recommendations viable when you are selling the one major assets that doesn’t cost that much to operate.
 
While I am glad that both sides are meeting sem-frequently, after all those discussions, what, if anything, was agreed upon other than the mutual desire for ACA to continue as an entity?  Again, specific answers please, not vague PR speak.
 
Regarding Post 20:  Again, I appreciate the response to Questions 2a & 2b.  Unfortunately, part of my actual question was not answered: Has or is anyone in the current or past leadership, in any way, connected to the vote's independent third-party administrator?  To clarify, has anyone who works for, owns, or contracts with Pedal Lucid ever been paid by ACA (other than for computer contract work) or do those people have friendships with any staff or leadership (past or present) at ACA? 
 
Again, without meaning to be rude, to me, using them because they have done work for you is NOT being independent but actually somewhat dependent since they have an incentive to get repeat business from you.  I will grant you it may be financially wise, not independent.  It is sort of the same as having the Democrats or Republicans investigate someone in their own party, i.e. Democrats investigate Biden.  While they will “probably” do a decent job investigating, the investigators have an incentive to go along. 
 
Regarding Post 21:  Ok,  I gotta admit, I am trying not to laugh at the non-answer.  Up until this past Saturday, the response from Leadership to public forums (ACA’s and BikeForums.net) had not been insufficient, it had been non-existent.  The answers keep promising but not doing (“committed to improving” vs. just doing it).
 
In fact, has there been ANY presence on ANY platform or method since December 1st other than the email providing the results and Round 2 voting instructions?  ACA’s Facebook or YouTube pages have nothing about the vote recently (or much at all in fact) but maybe I am missing it as I rarely use FB or YT so there is a definite possibility I am wrong about this. 
 
Also, if ACA is so overwhelmed by the inquiries from multiple forums, social media platforms, email communications, and phone inquiries, perhaps there is a LOT of concern out there not being addressed and would think social media and touring specific forums like this one, BikeForums, CGOAB, etc. would be much more expeditious in reaching touring cyclists.  I thought that was the whole point of social media is to reach a multitude of like-minded people easily and quickly.  I encourage ACA to engage the BikeForums.net forum also as perhaps, you can get new members.  NOTE: There are definite “let ACA die” advocates over on BikeForums.net unfortunately so be prepared.   
 
BTW, I noticed that the combined ACA Leadership to date was less than 10 total posts to date on their own forum.  I could understand Mr. Williamson have a relatively low count since he just recently started with ACA.
 
Regarding Post 24:  This one started to tick me off.  Buckle up, this is a long one.  But let me say thank you for the long response as it did provide some answers.
 
I cannot verify the roof/HVAC replacement costs so while I think that figure seems a bit high, I will accept your answer.  However, you imply the utilities cost “roughly $55k/year” which I assume means gas, electric, water, sewer, outdoor lighting, trash, and internet.  Maybe I am missing something else like say lawn care.  However, I actually called the utilities (first 5 listed) today because $55k seemed an awful lot for a 10k square foot building.  I was told the gas, electric, and outdoor lighting totaled about $7,625 per year.  The water cost was around a whopping $225 total per year (that is cheap!).  This means ACA spends ~$8k per year on the first 5 utilities.  That leaves $47k in internet, lawn care, and anything I missed.  This major discrepancy makes me highly suspect all the other figures.  PLEASE show me where I am wrong because currently, I just don’t see how ACA spends roughly $55k unless someone is either totally screwing you or getting a really good sweetheart deal and I really do not want to believe we were misled. 
 
You say keeping the building would require raising $750k per year fpr 3-5 years?  Can you specifically tell me how you came up with that number?  You keep mentioning this runway.  I am guessing ACA means a path toward digging itself out of the hole it found itself in.  If I am wrong, what exactly is a runway?  Again, I know buzz words sound great, but vagueness means diddly squat if it doesn’t communicate the idea correctly.  Please be specific. 
 
In the same sentence mentioning this runway, you mention protecting the routes, tours, advocacy and magazine.  Other than routes (good job as always), again without meaning to be rude, what have you actually protected with the tours, advocacy, and magazine since all have gone downhill (at least IMO).  For that matter,  what advocacy has actually been accomplished in the past year?  The magazine has unfortunately had its frequency gutted in the past couple of years.  So what exactly have you protected and what are you trying to “protect”.  Maybe you meant re-build?  I don’t know because that one sentence really got me since you are implying ACA has not already sacrificed them.
 
What specifically is the favorable lease back plan terms, i.e. how much per month and what expenses is ACA required to maintain?  According to the utilities, you currently hold some type of special discount rate that will skyrocket when you sell.  So let’s say you actually spent $200k fixing up the building (perhaps there is a member who is an HVAC tech in Montana who might help??), that means it costs about $4,200/month over 48 months in averaged expenses.  Even if you got only $2k/month to lease part of the building, that brings your total outlay to less than $106k over 48 months and that is assuming you still get the discounted utilities, which you will not, so the amount will be even less.  This is why I don’t understand why you need $750k in additional fundraising if you are only spending $106k.  If ACA is shedding more than $500k/year, it really needs to cut further unfortunately and the sell of the building only provides a slower death if revenue does not exceed expenses.
 
Again, I ask what, if anything, has been agreed upon with the opposing group.
 
Regarding my Question #5 from Post 1:  (what has ACA stopped to reduce costs)
Option #1.  Agreed if you can justify the $750k/year extra costs which have not been spelled out.  However, without trying to sound unsympathetic, maybe more cost cutting IS what is needed.  If the current position/endeavor does not pay for itself, cut or pause it.  While not as stable as 3 or 4 legged chair, there are 2 even 1 legged chairs available. 
 
Option #2.  Agreed that downsizing would hurt.  But see Option #1.  But, and this is a big one, there is definite perception out there that there is little direct value in being an ACA Member.  I personally do primarily because I want to support more route building and believe that when I go on a tour, the hotel discounts alone can pay for the membership.  So, my question is, what does ACA think the concrete value of being a member is?  And why has ACA not promoted the value more?   More importantly, this Option does not spell the end of ACA and actually could be a stepping stone to rebuilding ACA to its former glory.  Afterall, it once was smaller than this option.
 
Option #3 & #4.  Somewhat agree but IF this runway you keep mentioned runs into a mountain, these may be your only options unfortunately.
 
I re-read the “extensive measures to reduce expenses” section you mentioned.  Specific (or at least semi-specific) answers were stop doing unprofitable tours, 2 rounds of staff cuts.  Very difficult choice, but wise.
 
Vague answers were “Shed new and flagging programs to save core program areas”  and your response in Post 21Again, I ask, specifically, what are/were the “Strategic Initiatives” that were discontinued?  And how much savings did this produce?
 
Regarding my Queston #6 in Post 1: (Has ACA surveyed ex-Members)
I am glad to hear that you have indeed surveyed some past members as to why they left.  And while I agree that some are aging out, you mention it is “one of the top three reasons” for becoming an ex-Member.  What are the top 3 (or top 10) reasons and their percentage/rank?  Also, if you are saying that the other two were Program & Editorial Direction and Value Perception, where did “I no longer bike” rank?
 
As asked above, what is ACA doing about its perceived lack of value? Again, specifics please.
 
The remainder of Post 24 did not pertain to my questions so I will only comment on the Round 2 vote costs difference should be minimal as  a PO box is what $250/year, the mailings would cost about $5k if 5k members requested the vote via mail, why is a special meeting costing since it is online, and the rest was preventable based on Save ACA’s informing you before the vote that the first round violated Montana law.  But yeah, legal costs suck and so I could see that eating a bunch but again that was somewhat preventable.
 
In summary, I think you have provided a lot of insight but also, you have not answered a lot of questions and even brought up more.
 
As I have repeatedly said, I am for a viable ACA which focuses on Routes, budget tours available for all, touring specific advocacy that benefits all, and some form of Member “magazine”, preferably monthly.   I truly, truly wish ACA digs itself out the deep hole it dug itself into. 
« Last Edit: December 22, 2025, 06:48:29 pm by John Nettles »

Offline ray b

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2025, 10:02:18 pm »
Thanks Jessica.

John - Thanks for your passion and analysis. Your effort is saving the rest of us a lot of time to ride. (Still warm enough in Missouri to ride to work in shorts the next few days.)

Yeah - the utilities jumped out at me as well. I recall visiting the University of Montana to look at a job, and one of the big selling points was the low cost of electricity (which I will add is about 40% cheaper than Bentonville).

$55,000/y ($4600/month) for utitilities seems either irresponsible or wrong; neither possibility bodes well for the future of ACA, our faith in leadership, or the veracity of other messages. 


(My boss has a coffee cup - "irrational optimism." I'm trying, but in the absence of reliable data, it's tough.)           
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Offline billschairer@me.com

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2025, 11:28:12 pm »
My clarification to my previous question doesn't seem to have taken.  I asked:

1.  How many of the active members are life members?
2.  What are the year by year donations in dollars over the past 10 years?
3.  What are the year by year number of life members making donations over the past 10 years?

I meant in question 2, what were the year by year donations of life members.

Offline DW

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2025, 02:36:25 pm »
Hi! I'm Jessica Zephyrs, head of Communications at Adventure Cycling. I've been with the organization over 7 years (started when Jim Sayer was ED and I was a communications manager) and have stayed with the organization through four executive directors.

4 executive directors in 7 years.  That alone should tell us quite a lot.

1) Why does ACA not give ANY reasons for NOT selling?  As you know, the founders (the actual creators) of Bikecentennial / ACA, along with several other past "high level" members & employees including a past ACA Executive Director, are against the sell of the building at this time.  I am concerned the information the current ACA leadership is providing may not be all of the information available and that the members may not have the entire picture to vote accurately. 

Yes, why not?  We most certainly do not have the entire picture.  One side does not a fair or informed vote make.

On transparency: The board and staff have had over 20 meetings (virtual and in person) and other communications with the organized member group and individuals opposing the sale, shared requested documents over the last 5 months.

Yes, meetings and discussions with others who have a vested interest in helping to solve ACA's financial and other problems, as well as in its future, are good and laudable.  But please refer to the lead group of individuals spearheading opposition to the building's sale by its name: the Save ACA Committee.  To do otherwise, as in John and Andy's two emails to members and above, is disrespectful and dismissive.

Consisting of the four founders, two (other) retired executive directors, a retired, long-time CFO and past board members (who, by the way, helped make the organization the huge success it was for decades), I think it's fair to acknowledge they know of which they speak.  Their voices need to be heard by the membership.        

Why the sale of the building is being pushed as the best choice.

Both the staff and board of directors believe the building sale represents the best path forward for Adventure Cycling based on our comprehensive analysis of available options.

We believe this approach offers the strongest foundation for rebuilding Adventure Cycling into a thriving, sustainable organization with national impact.

The "best" choice or "strongest" path forward implies that there are more than two to be considered.  The reality is there is only one choice, one path being presented to the membership: the board's. 

It's my understanding that the Save ACA Committee has produced a broad-based, detailed analysis (financial, governance, membership, staffing, programmatic, etc.) of the problems confronting ACA in support of its opposition to the sale, including recommendations, proposed solutions and an actual plan to restore it to long-term health.  And, further, that the board has not allowed the committee to present its side, its case, to the membership. 

That, simply put, is not right.  In order to conduct a fair, transparent and equitable vote and for members to be able to make a fully informed decision, both arguments must be heard now, on this forum, as well as in a follow-up email to the full membership from the board president and the executive director.  ACA does, after all, exist to serve all the members, not just the view of a small minority.   

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Offline ray b

Re: Questions for Management
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2025, 05:55:29 pm »
Right two sides in any vote.

Why does the saveacahq.org provide so much more data to inform a vote for or against the current plans of the organizaion than the organization itself? https://saveacahq.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Rebuilding-Adventure-Cycling-v3.0.pdf

Given the respected positions in the industry of members of this committee, would ACA be better served by a publicly more defensive position? I mean, are the numbers provided by the committee that far off? Are their predictions of the future of the industry, in which they had such a strong hand in development, wrong? If so, how and why? As I previously suggested, we (ACA) should ignore their advice at the risk of our own peril. (And back to one of the John's comments - a lack of defensive participation here and heavily populated areas like bikeforums.net speaks of either indifference or arrogance. (Last I checked, arrogance or lack of enthusiastic commitment will kill any non-profit.)

In this context - where is the organization's proposed budgets with and without the sale of the building? (Cloudflare is keeping me off most of the website today - including login, but I could not find the data  there when I looked and searched last month.) Last year's numbers are interesting, but the vote is about the future. "Leadership" has provided no clue as to what they think the future looks like.

(Side note - under  "revenue." Tried today to buy my 50th anniversary souvenir coffee cups and water bottles.... Did someone forget to order these? )
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