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Offline DW

VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« on: January 16, 2026, 10:21:05 am »
Yes, voting is still going on despite the following deceptive statement from the ACA website (see the link below) strongly implying that it has ended and that members have approved the sale.  Actually, ACA says precisely that.  And it's completely false.  Note the underlined portions (mine) of ACA's claims:

1) Dec 15th, 2025: The date of this announcement

2) recent...vote: Which one?

3) 94.7%...in favor: This is from the November vote which was tossed out, nullified because of the underhanded manner in which the entire process was conducted; that is, it was totally one-sided.

4) the first results...strong: Again, the November results were voided.

5) the original vote was fair...decisive: 100% false: That's why a second vote, which began on January 13 and doesn't end until January 20, was needed.

So, please don't be taken in by this shameful display of propaganda.  Read everything carefully and cast a "No" vote. 

ACA's misleading claims:

Dec 15th, 2025

Thank you for your overwhelming support in our recent building sale vote, where 94.7% of you voted in favor of this strategic decision. 

Since sending our December 9 communications, we’ve heard from many of you expressing frustration at the idea of a small group calling for a second vote when the first results are so strong. We understand and share your sentiment. You’ve told us the original vote was fair, transparent, and decisive—and we agree completely.[/i]

https://www.adventurecycling.org/member_news/new-vote-announced/
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Offline bellantoni@mac.com

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2026, 10:13:41 pm »
Hi DW,

      I'm gonna make a claim now, quite independent of ACA leadership.  And then I am going to assert that my claim is 1) factual, and 2) all you really need to know.

Watch me now!

WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE 40 PEOPLE OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO IT IN THAT BUILDING AGAIN.  FACT!

Therefore, it is a wasted resource.  Waste is bad.  For an organization in financial peril, it can be fatal.

Voila.



Offline DW

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2026, 01:15:43 pm »
Hi DW,

      I'm gonna make a claim now, quite independent of ACA leadership.  And then I am going to assert that my claim is 1) factual, and 2) all you really need to know.

Watch me now!

WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE 40 PEOPLE OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO IT IN THAT BUILDING AGAIN.  FACT!

Therefore, it is a wasted resource.  Waste is bad.  For an organization in financial peril, it can be fatal.

Voila.

Bellatoni,

You may well be right.

However, Save ACA is not saying the building should never be sold, only not now.  Its emails state (paraphrasing a bit) that it's asking the board "...to put a pause on the sale and have a more transparent, fact-filled and fair review of the sale – and ACA’s future - until a credible, member-approved strategic plan has been presented." 




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Offline bellantoni@mac.com

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2026, 02:28:59 pm »
Hi DW,

      Yes Save ACA HQ keep saying to think of it as a pause... I guess I don't get that.  From the financials of the situation, we can't pause more than a few months.  The time required to find a buyer is a few months.  What more can we learn about the sale or about ACA's future?  It is true that a plan for ACA in the sense of a MicroSoft Project file hasn't been shown.  Honestly, I wouldn't believe it if I saw it.  Re the sale, the key issue to me at least is the leaseback and that does seem to be set up.  Some people have asked about future real estate values and I guess that they are rising in Missoula, but recession is also a possibility.  And to have the sale fall through makes it harder to put it back on the market.  OK not a lot harder.  Depends on your selling agent.  What does it mean "a fair review of the sale?"

       I dunno... just scratching my head on the "pause" concept.

Offline DW

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2026, 04:46:13 pm »
Hi DW,

      Yes Save ACA HQ keep saying to think of it as a pause... I guess I don't get that.  From the financials of the situation, we can't pause more than a few months.  The time required to find a buyer is a few months.  What more can we learn about the sale or about ACA's future?  It is true that a plan for ACA in the sense of a MicroSoft Project file hasn't been shown.  Honestly, I wouldn't believe it if I saw it.  Re the sale, the key issue to me at least is the leaseback and that does seem to be set up.  Some people have asked about future real estate values and I guess that they are rising in Missoula, but recession is also a possibility.  And to have the sale fall through makes it harder to put it back on the market.  OK not a lot harder.  Depends on your selling agent.  What does it mean "a fair review of the sale?"

       I dunno... just scratching my head on the "pause" concept.

Bellantoni,

Good questions all.  But don't scratch too hard.  Your helmet may not fit!   ;)

The bottom line in all this right now is seven months of endless obstruction, stonewalling, gamesmanship, propagandizing, falsehoods, deaf ears, one-sidededness, claim of a "victory" in December, shutting out all other voices (see the previous), provision of useless membership lists (at least twice) and violations of several Montana laws - all perpetrated by ACA. 

Have you ever seen a ballot spouting a candidate's position?  I'd say that ACA's argument took up only 99.9% of both the paper and e-ballots.  That has to be illegal somewhere.  The same might also be said for ACA mailing paper ballots to everyone, most especially those members, like me, who did not request it.  Mine was dated December 30, 2025.  I received it on January 5 - eight days before voting was to begin and time enough for members to vote before having an opportunity to hear opposing views at the member meeting on January 13.  Another unethical attempt on ACA's part to slant the vote to its one-sided position.
     
That's not to mention the complete failure of the E.D. and board chair to address questions and comments on this and another forum themselves.  That alone does not engender trust.  Moreover, appointing members to the board because they "show enthusiasm" does not make for good governance.

If ACA had conducted itself ethically, in good faith and according to the law from the outset, then none of this likely would ever have occurred.

In summary, the board's objective from the get-go was to ram its position down the throats of the members as the only one to consider.  That's just one of the violations of Montana law.  To paraphrase the old saying, "If ACA thinks its view, its voice is the only one that matters, then it should stick a collective finger in a glass of water and notice the hole it leaves when it's pulled out."

If you've read the board's proposal regarding the use of and potential rental possibilities for the HQ, you may see - as I clearly saw - a number of holes and questions raised, but not answered, in it.

As for the board's overall "plan" to restore ACA to financial and operational health, we all should ask, "Show me the details, the specifics, the timeline, the budget, projected revenues and your plans for how to achieve it.

The detailed analysis the Save ACA Committee produced way back last June may not be perfect or necessarily complete, but it far, far exceeds anything ACA has presented in both credibility and believeability.  And who wrote it?  The four founders, several former executive staff and other members who, together with many others through the decades, helped make Bikecentennial/ACA a huge success.







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Offline UncaBuddha

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2026, 12:19:20 pm »
Now that voting HAS ended, does anyone know when we will see the results?

Offline jamawani

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2026, 06:23:18 pm »
Jan. 31

Offline rafisher14

Re: VOTING HAS NOT ENDED: CONTINUES THROUGH JANUARY 20
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2026, 08:39:24 am »
Hi DW,

      I'm gonna make a claim now, quite independent of ACA leadership.  And then I am going to assert that my claim is 1) factual, and 2) all you really need to know.

Watch me now!

WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE 40 PEOPLE OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO IT IN THAT BUILDING AGAIN.  FACT!

Therefore, it is a wasted resource.  Waste is bad.  For an organization in financial peril, it can be fatal.

Voila.
I think the "Save the ACA HQ"  was never about the building per se, but a proxy for concern about mismanagement of ACA.