Pannier comparisons?

[damselfli]

In late June I finally made my first loaded trip - a two day overnight ride into the middle of our hot muggy swampland. I decided to carry my "front" Arkels on the rear. One pannier held my 2-man tent, complete with ground sheet and fly. The other held all my other stuff except my Thermarest w/ the tent stakes rolled inside it. I loaded my Arkel rack pack on top of the mountain behind me - for quick access to tools and camera and snacks - and ended up with a whopping 60#s (bike fully loaded no water). Will work on reducing stuff.

The Arkels were great. We dodged rain - light sprinkles only - so can't report on the liners. Small top pockets held tools and tent stakes. Shoes in other.

I will report again when my husband has had a chance to test the Ortliebs on his new Bilenky.

[Mira!]

Damselfli - We have such similar thought processes and preferences - and we got the same bike at about the same time.  I would love to chat with you about Nor'westers, panniers and other things.  Can you access me via the e-mail on my profile?
Nancy Stimson

[Styx]

Prefer Jandd..... and Spacebags, the rollup kind, are
great for reducing size and preventing wetness.