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HI All,

Newbie here so be gentle!
I am new to touring and have a question about shoe stuff; I use Sidi road shoes and Speedplay on my Kestrel but for my new touring bike I obviously wwant to be able to get off and WALK! ;)
What do most folks do? Clipless? old toe clips? Nada? What kind/style of shoes? MTB style? I LOVE my Speedplay (knee issues) and IF I was going to use clipless I would want to use the Speedplay Frogs but, like I said, I want to be able to walk, easily, with whatever I use. Can you really walk well in the MTB shoes??? I am unfamiliar with using the MTB style shoes on a bike so can you guys who have done a lot of road touring tell me the good, bad and the ugly of my options?
Thanks MUCHO


Hi Doug,

I use Lake MTB shoes with Time clipless, whose cleats are well recessed into the sole. They are fine for walking, even long walks. Check some MTB shoes at a shop. Their thick soles will probably allow the Speedplay cleats to be recessed.

When scrambling on the occasional rocky trail, one needs a little care in placing the feet to keep some rubber in contact with the ground. HTH


I have road ridden with Speedplay Frogs for over 60,000 miles so I believe I can speak with some authority. I love 'em. :) They are easy to enter and release, never release inadvertently and have the float you've learned to love in the X-series. They are also lighter than nearly any other road or MTB pedal.

The old-style Frog cleats require a small amount of surgery on the cleat pocket to fit most MBT shoes. (A Dremel tool with a sanding drum is ideal for this.)  The new design is narrower and should fit nearly anything with no modifications. In fact Speedplay says the new design can be used with road shoes, but they obviously won't be walkable that way.

My favorite shoe is the Shimano SH-T090 (the current version is SH-T092)which lists at around $90. They are styled like a road shoe and have a flat, but quite stiff, rubber sole with a recessed cleat pocket.  They aren't as "clunky" looking as fully lugged MBT shoes but are very walkable and keep the cleat off the road and floors.

I also like Performance's house brand MBT shoes and these will take the old style Frog cleats with no cutting.  They happen to fit my feet well and are less expensive than the Shimanos if you catch them on sale.  However the sole is "real" MBT.  

The only downside to MBT shoes is that they are slightly heavier than their road going counterparts.  This isn't a big issue for touring or non-racing use.

This message was edited by DaveB on 1-15-04 @ 8:27 PM

THanks Guys!
I apprecite the info!

Fred, what model of Lake do you use? I see a lot of different ones.
Dave, WOW, I really appreciate the Frog info! I was off the bike for 3 months due to a "water on the knee" issue that ended up being an internal injury and the "water" being old blood, yech) so I now know I MUST have the rotation/float for my knees so I will have to have the Frogs.

I was looking into more of an MTB style shoe; like the Shimano 034, 038 and the 021 but will try to find the 092.. Problem is that the LBS's have zip for touring and that 092 is a touring specific shoe. cool (if I can try one on!)

Thanks again! great info!


Hi Doug, I don't see a number on my Lake MTB shoes, but they are five years old so that would not be very useful anyway. They look like these:

I think just about any MTB shoe will have a sole thick enough to recess the cleats. Happy shopping.



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