Wyoming and Colorado routing?

[John Nelson]

You can do it (i.e., take the 14/40 route from Walden to Kremmling), and I've done it, but the traffic gets heavier every year there. The other route (125/40) is 20 miles longer, but has more services (although still not plentiful), more campgrounds, is prettier, has less traffic, and is safer.

[indyfabz]

valygrl writes:
"If it works into your route, the 191 through Apache National Forest, Alpine to Clifton, is Freaking Awesome!!!! (and insanely hilly, and there are no services, but hey, it's sooooo great!!!!)"

I tried to look this up to no avail. I found an Alpine and 191 in Wyoming and a Clifton in Colorado but couldn't find an Apache National Forest. 191 south of Hobart Junction and down into Utah would certainly provide long stretches of "no services" but plenty of fine desert scenery. Looks a like a route worth taking.

It's in AZ.  Go to Google Maps and type in Apache National Forest, Clifton AZ and you will see U.S. 191 between Alpine and Clinton.

[indyfabz]

It's in AZ.  Go to Google Maps and type in Apache National Forest, Clifton AZ and you will see U.S. 191 between Alpine and Clinton.
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And on Street View it does look Freaken Awesome.

[valygrl]

It's in AZ.  Go to Google Maps and type in Apache National Forest, Clifton AZ and you will see U.S. 191 between Alpine and Clinton.

And on Street View it does look Freaken Awesome.
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Yes, that's right, sorry I was unclear, I got all excited thinking about the awesomeness of that road, especially since I get to do it again next spring.  I've ridden it 3x now - 2x south to north, 1x north to south (which is the "easier" way) - with a supported tour on my road bike.  Between Alpine and Morenci (first real services) it's about 92 miles, 8,000' climbing, 12,000' descending.  Somewhere in the middle there's a forest service station that supposedly has water, but other than that, there are no services.  There are a couple of minimally improved campgrounds in there somewhere.

191 in Utah, on the other hand, would not be my choice of rides - desolate desert, high wind.  It's beautiful, in a way, but a really harsh landscape.